Darko Milicic hopes for a $60 million dollar extension.

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    Lot of time between now and the summer. Darko could easily step up his game to an incredible level and earn the contract.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Nov 12 2006, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lot of time between now and the summer. Darko could easily step up his game to an incredible level and earn the contract.</div> He's shown nothing so far to think he will explode. His numbers from last year in Orlando and this seasons are nearly identical.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Nov 12 2006, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lot of time between now and the summer. Darko could easily step up his game to an incredible level and earn the contract.</div>But for him to expect that kind of money with the way he is playing right now, he must be out of his mind. He isnt worth anymore than 5 mil a year and he should know that with how he is playing right now. Im not saying that he is playing bad, but he sure as hell isnt playing good or anywhere near 60 million dollars. If he honestly wants that much money, he is going to have to go elsewhere because the Magic are going to have to sign Dwight and Jameer who are both going to be expensive.
     
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    So far early in this season Darko Milicic is looking very good and like he will be a nice player down low for our team. He plays good defense, his confidence around the basket is there, and he has gotten alot stronger. He is showing the desire to be better, and anyone can watch and tell that he has gotten better and worked hard this offseason. I'm hoping we sign him back long term, as he will be nice to go with Howard in the post.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So far early in this season Darko Milicic is looking very good and like he will be a nice player down low for our team. He plays good defense, his confidence around the basket is there, and he has gotten alot stronger. He is showing the desire to be better, and anyone can watch and tell that he has gotten better and worked hard this offseason. I'm hoping we sign him back long term, as he will be nice to go with Howard in the post.</div> If he's improved so much more from last season, why's he playing under 20 minutes a game? Darko Milicic has shown very little since coming here and his work ethic in Detroit was questioned. Giving him $60 million dollars seems like a foolish thing to do.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 12 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's shown nothing so far to think he will explode. His numbers from last year in Orlando and this seasons are nearly identical.</div>And here is where I can tell that you have not actually watched him play this season. Milicic's numbers might be close, but to someone that has watched all seven games that Magic have played in this season know exactly how good he is and what they are looking forward to. He might not be worth 60 million, but he would be a nice investement to put a good chunk of change into for the future. His confidence is up, his agressiveness is alot better. He's moving around the basket and positioning himself, actually knowing the game. A big reason why they bring him to the bench so often, is becaue he sits with a coach on the sideline, and they point towards Battie and show him what Battie does. It's all a learning curb.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And here is where I can tell that you have not actually watched him play this season. Milicic's numbers might be close, but to someone that has watched all seven games that Magic have played in this season know exactly how good he is and what they are looking forward to. He might not be worth 60 million, but he would be a nice investement to put a good chunk of change into for the future. His confidence is up, his agressiveness is alot better. He's moving around the basket and positioning himself, actually knowing the game. A big reason why they bring him to the bench so often, is becaue he sits with a coach on the sideline, and they point towards Battie and show him what Battie does. It's all a learning curb.</div> I watched him 2 weeks ago, he looked decent and scored some points inside. But again, why is he only playing 20 minutes a game if he's such a good defender and has improved so much.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 12 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I watched him 2 weeks ago, he looked decent and scored some points inside. But again, why is he only playing 20 minutes a game if he's such a good defender and has improved so much.</div>That is giving the sign that he is improving. If he gradually keeps getting better, he may deserve a big contract. Still plenty of time.
     
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    I already said why, they bring him to the bench alot so that he can watch Battie and see how things are doing. He is still learning the mental aspect of things and positioning. It's hard sometimes to teach and show a person if they are in the game alot, so they put him on the sidelines, to teach him.His fundamentals have gotten alot better, especially in his free throw shooting, he's not leaning back like he did alot last year. His positioning on both offense and defense has gotten better, he still goofs up from time to time, but it's much better than last year. He's more agreesive and confident which is key. As he gets more and more, he will get more and more time, and he will get better and better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I already said why, they bring him to the bench alot so that he can watch Battie and see how things are doing. He is still learning the mental aspect of things and positioning. It's hard sometimes to teach and show a person if they are in the game alot, so they put him on the sidelines, to teach him.</div> I know he's young but he's played in 133 games now. Why would you be willing to spend $60 million dollars on a guy who still doesn't understand basic play in his 4th year?
     
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    The Magic would be very stupid to do this. He hasnt proven anything besides his late-season surge. If he doesn't improve any more this season, then I wouldnt even give him 5 million a year..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 12 2006, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know he's young but he's played in 133 games now. Why would you be willing to spend $60 million dollars on a guy who still doesn't understand basic play in his 4th year?</div>His first two and a half years in the league no one taught him the NBA game in Detroit. It's hard to learn and be productive when you have a language barrier to get over, plus the coach's are not working with you, or trying to teach you. How good he has gotten since just last february is amazing to me, shows that he is picking up the game better, and responding well. He has high upside, and is really trying to get better. As I said, 60 million might be a reach, but I think the Magic can afford to spend a good chunk of change on him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His first two and a half years in the league no one taught him the NBA game in Detroit. It's hard to learn and be productive when you have a language barrier to get over, plus the coach's are not working with you, or trying to teach you. How good he has gotten since just last february is amazing to me, shows that he is picking up the game better, and responding well. He has high upside, and is really trying to get better. As I said, 60 million might be a reach, but I think the Magic can afford to spend a good chunk of change on him.</div> The Pistons coaching staff was working with him. They didn't pick him 2nd overall and not try to develope him. The Pistons staff just got tired of his attitude and cut ties. I was rooting for Darko in Detroit and was telling people to lay off the guy but once I heard about his attitude problems I really felt turned off.
     
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    If they worked with him so hard, then why didn't they get results out of him like the Magic are getting? They either didn't work with him much, or they didn't teach him the things he needs to know. I know when he came to Orlando lots of things were all off, his form on free throw shooting, his defensive stance were a little off, he had no confidence at all. Since last february his confidence has gone up, his positioning is 10 times better, he's stronger, he's smarter, and he finds open space around the basket alot better than he did. So either the Magic just have a great coaching staff, and are better teachers than the Pistons, or the Pistons just didn't teach him. Either which way, since coming to Orlando he has shown alot of potential to be a very good low post player given just a bit more learning.
     
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    I wouldn't give darko anything more than 6 million a year, unless he averages 18 8 and 3 this year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they worked with him so hard, then why didn't they get results out of him like the Magic are getting? They either didn't work with him much, or they didn't teach him the things he needs to know. I know when he came to Orlando lots of things were all off, his form on free throw shooting, his defensive stance were a little off, he had no confidence at all. Since last february his confidence has gone up, his positioning is 10 times better, he's stronger, he's smarter, and he finds open space around the basket alot better than he did. So either the Magic just have a great coaching staff, and are better teachers than the Pistons, or the Pistons just didn't teach him. Either which way, since coming to Orlando he has shown alot of potential to be a very good low post player given just a bit more learning.</div> They are getting more results because the Magic can play him. At the time the Pistons didn't have the minutes in the rotation. From what I've read Darko was not giving a full effort in Detroit and was a baby at times so I figure thats why he was he was so raw coming into Orlando. I'm sure now that he has more chances to play he's not as frustraited and unwilling to work.
     
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    Maybe he was in Detroit, I didn't pay attention to him because he didn't get in enough. All I know is in Orlando he is showing all the desire to be a good quality player in this league. He's obviously studying the playbook, he hit the weights in the off season and is stronger than last year, he must have watched tape and figured alot of stuff out. They shouldn't penalize him for what happened in Detroit. Since he was on the bench that much in Detroit, the least they could have done is what the Magic are doing, have someone sitting beside him showing him "you see how Wallace is doing that, then rotating to here." He has shown every reason and bit of upside to warrant a good 7 or 8 million a year in Orlando. Pacerfan, there is alot more to the game than what you average. Alot of times stat lines, and box scores don't tell the full story of how a player is having a positive effect on the team, and how well he plays when the ball isn't in his hands.
     
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    darko is solid. I don't see a 60 million dollar contract coming his way until he keeps it up for a whole season tho. right now idt he is worth it. at the end of the season, possibly. I want to see 10 ppg and 6 rpg first.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 12 2006, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacerfan, there is alot more to the game than what you average. Alot of times stat lines, and box scores don't tell the full story of how a player is having a positive effect on the team, and how well he plays when the ball isn't in his hands.</div>You think I don't relize that?Why do you think I praise gus like Granger, Rawle Marshall, Iguodola, Josh Smith, Jeff Foster, Chris Kaman, Drew Gooden...Because I know they make a difference, no matter what their stats are.
     

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