Libertarians Vs. Conservatives

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Stossel Rocks.

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    WAR ON DRUGS: Libertarians think the war on drugs is nuts. Adults should be free to do what they want with their own bodies. Congressman Allen West disagrees.

    GAMBLING: Likewise, I say it ought to be your choice whether you want to gamble. Alex McFarland of the American Family Association says I'm wrong.

    GAY MARRIAGE: Most libertarians don't care whom you marry. Want to marry someone of your own gender? Fine. In fact, most libertarians don't see why government is involved in marriage at all. But "What Is Marriage? Man and Woman: A Defense" author Ryan Anderson says marriage must be a union between a man and a woman.

    PROSTITUTION: Sex is OK. Making money is OK. But sex for money? Not OK. We libertarians ask, why? I don't see a problem with paid consensual sex between two adults. But Fox News contributor Monica Crowley says, "the social cost is far too high."

    MILITARY POWER: Libertarians want less military spending and less involvement in other countries' problems. Conservatives like Ambassador John Bolton support the war in Iraq and say that if Iran is about to get a nuclear weapon, we need to use military force. We gently debate.

    IMMIGRATION REFORM: I think immigrants are great for America. Fox Business Channel host Lou Dobbs says he does too, but we need to "make decisions about who we want to work in this country."

    MY TAKE: F.A. Hayek wrote an essay "Why I'm Not A Conservative." He argues that "the conservative regards it as his mission to "civilize" others - not by voluntary and unhampered intercourse but by bringing them the blessings of efficient government."

    As usual, Hayek was on to something. America benefits when conservatives speak out against immoral behavior. But shaming is one thing, force of law is another. Using law means people with guns demand that everyone behave the way the majority thinks they should.

    We ought to be able to do anything that's peaceful. We should be allowed take drugs, gamble, pay for sex, and do self-destructive and immoral things-as long as we don't directly harm anyone else.
     
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    Denny, whats with all the pop-ups.
     
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    There are no popups, or at least there shouldn't be.

    What popup ads are you seeing?
     
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    I've never seen that ad on the site.

    Sounds like malware. You got it from some other site?

    Can you post a screen shot of the ad?
     
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    And yet, the "libertarian" caucus in the Republican party has supported a "personhood" law to ban abortion under all circumstances and ban most forms of birth control, and the "libertarian" caucus has also voted for constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality.

    So you do favor the state deciding some people's love is worthy of respect but others is not?

    Which is why I don't really consider them libertarians. At least not the libertarians I have known, with whom I disagreed on a lot but at least they were not obsessed with regulating vaginas and calling it freedom.

    and why does spell check not recognize "vaginas"?

    Define immoral

    Yet you called it "sane" to ban marriage equality. OK, not all marriages are peaceful but I don't think that is your point.
     
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    1.4 Abortion

    Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.


    Libertarian has nothing to do with pro life or pro choice. If you are religious, you'll likely be pro life.
     
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    Defining the word Marriage has nothing to do with your question.
     
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    Because they all look a little different?

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