Geez the comments on this board are scary. The majority want a socialist dictatorship, instead of freedom of choice including religion. Why the hell does anyone want to force their employer or have the government force their employer to give up their religious beliefs just to receive something which you can buy cheap????
yeah...I have no idea why some believe that they have a right to free contraception for women..for one, it is a life style choice, not really a health care issue. Yeah, sure we all know the girl that had to take them to balance some hormonal problem blah blah blah...but that is the exception. fucking brown finger saying that this ruling puts women at risk is a farce..many have been sold a bill of goods and to continue to believe the fairy tale is more than unfortunate, it is irresponsible at best.
Serious question: What is your opinion on parents' rights to "faith heal" a child through prayer, if medical science can cure/prevent their illness?
I have serious doubts that parents can pull the feat off when the illness or injury is serious. I also have serious doubt the government can get it right in intervening. See Justina Pelletier http://abcnews.go.com/Health/advoca...-pelletier-held-state-pysch/story?id=22312907
Oh BTW! I like to buy the best help I can get when mine are ill. It's tough enough to get that done in time when the serious problem come your way.
fixed it. the id got clipped. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/advoca...-pelletier-held-state-pysch/story?id=22312907
$15 a month? Where? That's the copay after insurance. Funny how there is only religious objection to women's healthcare. Lifestyle choice? 98% of heterosexual women in America use birth control at some point in their life. Huge numbers of women (not "the occasional girl") use oral contraceptives for medical purposes. The lifestyle choice is being female. Hobby Lobby covered birth control in their insurance for years. It was only after the ACA was passed that they suddenly found providing birth control coverage violated their "deeply held beliefs". Hobby Lobby products are made in China, a country famous for forced abortions. Hobby Lobby's 401(k) plan includes investments in manufacturers of abortion and contraception products. In the hearing, it was claimed that Hobby Lobby "sincerely believed" birth control is abortion. And the ground rules were that it was enough that they "sincerely believed" that; it did not have to be factually correct. So an anti-science decision as well. Forget facts, if it's your "sincerely held belief" that the moon is made of green cheese, hey presto! it is! Every man here who agrees with this decision: you had damn well better be a virgin for life.
yeah, it is a life style choice..and as I stated, Hobby Lobby only objects to birth control that they feel aborts a child. They do provide 16 other forms. and for fucks sake, how does this effect you?
28 day supply, WalMart $4 bucks. Now please tell me again why you need to have Obama fuck with anyone and their Religious convictions? Remember your opinion of their convictions do not count. http://www.walmart.com/cp/4-Prescriptions/1078664
Of course, we are all skipping over the thresh-hold issue. Hobby Lobby is a corporation - a legal fiction that exists only on paper. How can it have religious beliefs to offend? The owners of Hobby lobby want the advantages that come with operating behind a corporate shell....but they also want to be treated like the owners of a small business who are actually involved with their employees. They want things both ways. IMHO, the whole notion of corporation = person has reached an absurd extreme.
I'm not about the whole lifestyle choice crap. I'm fine with contraception. But my bad, it's only $9/month. http://www.reproductiveaccess.org/contraception/lowcost_pills.htm Pharmacies with Low-Cost Birth Control Pills Kroger: Kroger Generic Drug List and Kroger Store Locator Sprintec or Trinessa: $9/month or $24/3 months Price may higher in CA, MN, WY Target: Target Generic Drug List (under women’s health) and Target Store Locator Sprintec or Tri-sprintec: $9/month Price may be higher in CA, MN, MT, PA, RI, TN, WI, and WY. Wal-Mart: Wal-Mart Generic Drug List (under women’s health) and Wal-Mart Store Locator Sprintec or Tri-sprintec $9/month Price may be higher in CA, HI, MN, MT, PA, TN, WI, and WY. Sam’s Club Sam’s Club Generic Drug List and Sam’s Club Store Locator Sprintec or Tri-sprintec: $9/month Price may be higher in CA, HI, MN, MT, PA, TN, WI, and WY.
I read somewhere, (excuse the shitty "i heard from a guy") that this ruling will target private single/family owner businesses only. So publicly traded companies won't have the same rights. Just a though I wanted to inject.
Anything that affects womens' rights affects me. And if you care, you probably don't, I was on oral contraceptives for endometriosis. Let's say you were sick and you go to doctor and your doctor says based on best medical opinion you need treatment A. But then your boss said treatment A is against my religion so sorry, you can have treatment B only even though it is not nearly as effective. Besides, treatment A is only used by men and being a man is a lifestyle choice. How would you react? Oh sure, I'll live my life by your religion, boss, even if I can't get best medical care? But it's not likely to happen because religious objections just always seem to be about women's health. Funny even the most sincerely held religious beliefs never think of denying single dudes viagra.
It's more likely you'll go to the doctor, need treatment A, and the ObamaCare death squad will deny it.
Here is a list of nine oral pills available at WalMart for $4.00 for a 28 day supply. Does that help? Oops! my bad, $9.00 http://i.walmartimages.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/customer_list.pdf
I thought I was being funny..and yeah, I knew I had a fifty fifty chance of rising your ire. I did believe the comedic value was worth it, in my opinion. You seem to champion so many causes, it would seem that eventually you will stumble upon one worth your effort, other than your stand by LGBT community, that many of us admire you for. Great argument if it were that simple and one sided as you present it. You see, no matter how many times it is said, you still ignore the facts. They only object to morning after type of pills, abortion, and IUDs. They do promote and allow 16 other types of birth control. It is a Christian company that practices publicly their values..ie closed on Sunday, playing Christian music in the stores, valuing family issues..these are nothing new to get around anything as they have been providing benefits above and beyond what the gov has required for decades.. It is pretty damn simple...you dont agree with company policy, dont work there.. oh and if the big deal is for part of the population to receive special benefits based upon gender, I do need to know how that is so progressively fair.....
Hard to understand how Obama and his democrats could ignore this part right up front in the 1st Amendment. U.S. Constitution › First Amendment "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." I guess is just shows the Constitution doesn't mean shit to them. I guess you can say the same about their taking the Oath of office.
I know you kid, but recently I had the opportunity to deal with brownfingers legacy ....they asked me four times in four days about signing a DNR, Then they scheduled a panel to meet with me to try to change my mind...this is a reality..this is not the future or as brownfinger would say a myth
