NBA trade and Free Agent rumors

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  1. Boise Blazer

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    I dont totally disagree with that with one possible exception, does (and I dont know if he does) Nelson run the offense better and its that better for the team. Or can Mo do that and is he willing to do that?
     
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    I think nelson is a better pg than mo
     
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    He gave Lillard troubles... and thus I want him on my team.
     
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    It's not just a matter of Nelson running an offense better, but can he run a bench unit better? I honestly haven't watched enough of Nelson to really answer this question.
     
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    is Jameer a better defender? Mo was pretty awful
     
  6. Boise Blazer

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    Jameer's DRtg was 111 this year so I dont know

    http://bkref.com/tiny/ILdEO
     
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    Well, based on 82games.com, Mo is a -7 PER after you subtract the PER that he gives up to his opponents. Nelson is only a -2.2 PER, but that's only because Nelson has a higher PER than Mo. They both give up roughly a 16 PER to their opponents.
     
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    Chalmers opponent PER - 13.6
     
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    Chalmers is probably the closest to Greg Anthony that we will find. But will he accept a bench role?

    Actually, if Miami signs Lowry, he won't have a choice.
     
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    With Curry/Lawson/Parker/Westbrook/Paul etc

    You should probably have a guy at the PG position that can play some semblance of defense. Chalmers can do that.
     
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    I think he would accept if you sell him that he'll get 25-30 min a game, which is what he got in Miami.

    Interesting note on Chalmers is he went to high school in Alaska, so he's used to being way out here.
     
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    Good catch. I completely missed his name
     
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    I don't think he'll get 25-30. I think maybe 20. Stotts had to grossly overplay Mo and I don't want to see that repeated.
     
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    If Chalmers only played 20 minutes than Stotts would be worse at using his bench than I thought
     
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    I want to see Dame play around 36 minutes, and some of that will be at shooting guard, but where are you going to find Chalmers 25-30 minutes with so many other guards on our team?
     
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    The same way Mo got 25 min a game, except Chalmers would actually deserve them

    All this said, I could see him ending up starting for Houston if they don't land a star. He'd really help solidify that group.

    Someone is going to get this guy and be a better team for it.
     
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    Chalmers would get 24 minutes behind both Wes and Dame. I personally don't see why so many are down on him.
     
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    Haynes just tweeted this :

    On Mo Williams front, told the free agent guard has no meetings set with other teams: "His only goal is to get something done with #Blazers"

    Looks like the ball is in the Blazers court and unless Mo's demands are not reasonable then i would count on him being a Blazer again. I know this would not please some fans but i think he is a good fit so after he re-signs this will leave the MLE (5.3m) and BAE (2m~)
     
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    Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat
    Why Norris Cole's $2M could be dealt for cap space: The likes of Jameer Nelson now there possibly for the vet minimum.

    Actually a smart move for the Heat
     
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    But Mo got all those minutes because there was literally nobody else to play them. Next season we should HOPEFULLY have CJ in the rotation. And I think that Will has earned some consistent minutes. Plus there's always a chance we will sign a wing, so I don't think there's going to be the minutes available that were there last season.
     

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