The Surprisingly Strong Case for Colonizing Venus

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    They're politicians as much as scientists anymore. They're way out of their bounds.
     
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    Okay, did a political scientist steal your first girlfriend or bully you in grade school?
     
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    No it doesn't. Funding didn't occur because the results didn't, and still don't, justify funding. What's your suggested alternative? Just fund everything anyone proposes? It's not easy to get research funding, there are a lot of people with good ideas. Why should ideas that have not panned out receive additional funding?

    It doesn't happen in this part of science. The community took a good hard look at cold fusion. Lots of people spent lots of time on it.

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    They did justify it. Two studies of the concept by your precious government agencies said so.

    And you're just a denier now.
     
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    Denny, I'm sympathetic towards modest funding of your conspiracy theories.

    That is not a promise that I or anyone else is going to send you any money.

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    And what part of

    do you have trouble understanding?

    They said that funding agencies should consider funding individual well-designed proposals in specific areas. Now, if you show me that there were good proposals in those specific areas that were unreasonably denied funding, you might have some sort of a case.

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    Selective reading on your part.

    They were denied funding. All funding for it is private.

    I don't think it is viable as is, but there is evidence it can work and it is more worthy of research than shrimps on treadmills.

    Denier.
     
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    So what? Show me evidence that it was more worthy of funding than what was actually funded from the programs where they applied. If you can't do that you don't have a case.

    The flat earth society is privately funded also.

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    Post #18, barfo.

    And flat earth gets hundreds of billions in govt. grants.
     
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    Post #18 is just an excerpt from Wikipedia, and a fairly unsubstantial one at that. It isn't evidence of anything at all.

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    the government shouldnt be picking winners and losers when it comes to energy

    or something like that, i cant remember
     
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    I don't know the details of the shrimp study. But I'm sure it wasn't competing with cold fusion proposals. So you might as well bring up the census or fighter jets or any other federal spending.

    The DOE did NOT recommend further funding. It merely said proposals should be considered.

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    It's over 800 degrees on Venus, but that's only the first problem, as soon as we leave the earth's protective atmosphere we are going to get fried to a crisp by the sun's radiation. We ain't leaving this planet.
     
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    Read the article. It says billionaires have an obligation to fund a colony on venus or fusion reactors.
     
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    I can't keep track of whether you're in denial or just deflecting from what you don't want to admit.
     
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    some people think they have an obligation to feed hungry children, or an obligation to pay for roads and schools. who are we to say how they can spend their money? i say we let the free market figure it out.
     
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    The govt. studies talk to its viability.

    I don't suggest the billionaires spend their money any way they don't want to.
     
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    give the scientists all of the tax subsidies going to oil companies, they would figure it out yesterday

    but that would be the government doing it. and the government is bad
     
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