Blazers sign Chris Kaman

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Hammersticks, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    3,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Blazers have 6 days to come to terms with the Lakers on a sign and trade; that would allow them to sign another player with the full MLE.
     
  2. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Messages:
    14,608
    Likes Received:
    5,486
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's a good idea. Not sure if LA would want to help us out though. Do they really want any of our scrubs?
     
  3. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    Who was the last Laker to become a Blazer?


    I can't thing of any unless I go all the way back to Leroy Ellis.
     
  4. Charcoal Filtered

    Charcoal Filtered Writing Team

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2009
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    2,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I would have preferred Hawes for 4yr/23M. Hope we did not sign Kaman because he required fewer years.
     
  5. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Portland
    He got even less than what I thought he'd get. This makes the Kaman signing that much worse. Four years is nothing for a 26 year-old, who will be just entering his prime at the tail end of his contract.
     
  6. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    67,845
    Likes Received:
    66,602
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hawes got incentives in a major market I'm thinking. They offered something Portland couldn't match. I have no doubt the Blazers knew this before offering a deal to Kaman
     
  7. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Portland
    Agreed. We keep our 2015 flexibility with the Kaman signing but nothing is promised tomorrow. Everyone out West is getting better and we're kind of standing pat. Also, next year's FA crop just isn't that strong.
     
  8. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Portland
    I don't buy that. He's a Seattle guy, even said he'd love to play in Portland because it's in the NW. He wanted the security of a four-year deal and we probably didn't want to offer that long of a deal? Either way, the Clippers just got a whole lot better.
     
  9. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,973
    Likes Received:
    4,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    that seems to me like a very cheap/reasonable contract for the Clips getting Hawes, especially given what we have seen this FA so far, I would much rather have Hawes on this deal then Kaman by a fukkin mile
     
  10. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    67,845
    Likes Received:
    66,602
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You'll probably understand if we go after Marc Gasol next summer.
     
  11. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,973
    Likes Received:
    4,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    sorry, but that's crap from Blazer mgmt if that was the reason, Hawes at less that 6 mil per is a great and very attractive/tradeable contract if they really wanted Gasol or whoever nest yr, it's about gathering assets at hawes at 4 yrs/23 mil is a very nice asset
     
  12. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Portland
    RoLo + Hawes for the foreseeable future >>>> a chance at getting Marc Gasol + having no real backup center
     
  13. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    44,419
    Likes Received:
    32,724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vagabond
    Location:
    Water Valley, Alberta Ca
    Who out west has gotten stronger, outside of draft picks?

    Minnesota? not really.
    OKC? They lost a guy.
    Lakers? Nope.
    Warriors? Livingston isn't a difference maker really.
    Dallas? not sure they got better.
    Spurs? already better.
    Rockets? traded Asik, probably won't get Anthony.
    Kings? Meh.
    Grizzlies? Nothing much.
    New Orleans?
    Denver? Eh..

    How did "everyone out west" get better?
     
  14. shamelessblazer

    shamelessblazer Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2008
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I would think Freeland and Wright have at least neutral value if we sent over a pick or something. Either one would get us up to the amount needed to take back Kaman.
     
  15. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    So how many post dissing other posters for not being realistic about not liking the Kaman signing because that is all the Blazers could afford. People on this board act they know so much and judge others based on what they think are facts. We are all just trying to figure this shit out, but just because some don't like the Kaman signing doesn't mean they don't see reality. Bad signings happen all the time with every organization.

    the Kaman signing very well may be a bad signing or I could be flat out wrong, but I and others can analyze a Blazer move and "see reality" just as much as the homers who justify each and every move by the Blazers
     
  16. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,072
    Likes Received:
    35,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yay! Unrealisitic bitching because Hawes went somewhere else.

    Wake me when they realize that they would have done this if Hawes signed for 5/50 anyway. Just wanting another reason to bitch.
     
  17. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,072
    Likes Received:
    35,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I like you treaty, but no. :)
     
  18. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    271
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Portland
    Pelicans added Asik, could easily be players for a playoff berth
    Clippers for one got better today
    Rockets could land Melo/Bosh which would make them better
    Livingston is just what the Warriors needed, they struggled mightily without a true backup for Curry once Jack left in 2013
    Memphis won't be that injury prone this season as they were in 2014
    Both OKC and SA haven't used their MLE yet and they were each considerably better than us last year

    Point being: The West is fucking loaded and if you're not adding assets some other team will pass you by.
     
  19. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Well I appreciate your contribution on this board, but you can not be any more insulting telling people who don't like the Kaman trade they don't see reality.

    So many times I want to tell homers to stop being homers and buying into every move the Blazers make, but I stop because I really don't know for sure what is a good move.

    Fact you think you know it all is really a joke and shows an immaturity to
    Your thought process.
     
  20. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, free agency isn't over. The Blazers just have almost no money left to spend. Same difference.
     

Share This Page