Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in contention

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

C'mon. Who wouldn't give up $60M just to play with Taj?

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

See? And here it goes. Anthony a longshot like it has been from day 1. Bulls took the steps to maximize their options while weighing thesurrounding pieces. They seem to have done their due diligence to have options if that always been a longshot doesn't go down. If they hadn't positioned themselves to have options its dusty phone. The bleat is positioned.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

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Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

If you knew Anthony was a longshot, you might have lined up Afflalo as a backup plan.

I hear LeBron made a list of teams he'd consider playing for and the Bulls aren't one of them. What does he know that we don't?

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

For the second time, dusty phone is only used at the trade deadline!!!!!

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

There's no need for so many angles of attack and IMO it hurts your argument. If the goal of ownership is to maximize profits, filling seats and avoiding the tax are simply tactics, not goals. And if ownership is not intent on winning championships, GarPax don't need excuses, built-in or otherwise.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Well, it can't be that the Bulls ownership/management are a bunch of assholes, 'cause you already know that.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Internally, I doubt they do. As long as the team is competitive enough to keep the arena full and they remain a low payroll team they are all set. Externally, there is a PR aspect to this and the DRose situation gives them some of the cover they need. Can't win with Rose taking up all the cap, always gets hurt, won't recruit, Reggie Rose, medically cleared, on and on, can't blame us for MAXing out the MVP. Rose has been thrown under the bus several times already.
And the only reason this organization even matters NBA wise right now is because of Rose.

If he doesn't pan out or eventually leaves, we're back to Hinrich/Gordon/Nocioni/Deng 2.0. And that sucks. At least from a wanting to win the NBA title perspective. Hinrich/Gordon/Nocioni/Deng filled the arena.

Listen, I'd love to see management execute here. Not looking for reasons to "bleat." Given over a decade, I'd like to see this management group build an actual contender by executing on a strategic plan. That's why they supposedly get the checks, right? Well, likely not, but it would be nice if that was the case, since I actually would very much like to see the Bulls win the NBA title.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

If you believe what people are writing, Melo hasn't bothered to keep the Bulls in the loop. No contact since he left Chicago.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Rose is hurt. But organizations win championships.

 

Anthony and Gibson “connected.”

The fact Taj Gibson played an active part of the Bulls' pitch played to Anthony's desire to keep Gibson and possibly join a ready-to-win roster. A source familiar with the Bulls’ pitch said Anthony and Gibson “connected.”

Without a sign-and-trade and by keeping Gibson, the Bulls only can offer Anthony a four-year, roughly $73 million deal via salary-cap space. This is one of the many reasons acquiring Anthony via a sign-and-trade is more ideal. It can make Anthony’s offer far more lucrative and allow the Bulls to remain over the salary cap, thus allowing them to sign other players via exceptions.

Read more http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...ve-in-quest-for-melo-20140707,0,2363679.story

 

Re: Anthony and Gibson “connected.”

What hogwash. Obviously Carmelo Anthony connected more with a max contract or he'd be signed by now. And can you blame him? Take the money; live where it never snows; call it day -- that's what everybody who is in their right mind would do.

My new theory about the holdup is that the Lakers haven't made an offer to Anthony and are waiting on James, who they also pitched last week. If James passes they'll probably make an offer to Anthony. At that point in time there's a 95% chance Anthony takes the offer, and a 5% chance he tries to leverage the offer for a spot on the Bulls. Is James signs with the Lakers I think it's up in the air whether Anthony signs with the Knicks or Bulls.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

@ESPNSteinLine: Vibe I get out of New York, meanwhile, is legitimate unease ... given that some in the organization expected a decision from Melo by Monday

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Organizations do win championships. Its sort of a self fulfilling prophesy. If you win a championship you have a good organization. But that slam is oft reprated for Krause Devil bashing and it is patently unfair. Anyone following the Bulls knows it was a fluff uplifting statement made to Bulls staff to express appreciation and recognize contribution of staffers and not some megalomaniac dismissal of floor talent.

So lets put that dog down. Players win championships. Organizations that put the players in place win championships. In any event I have it on good word that Jerry Krause has been off payroll for an hour or two so continued wallowing in his awkward attempt at a compliment is rather fruitless and hollow.

So...endeth that? Forever? Please?

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

It was utter bullshit. Players win championships, period. A good coach enables them. Good management enables the coach.

Since the defending championship team was sent packing, it's not been about players. It's been about jib and right way and more recently "grit" and all that crap.

You can't put that dog down. I can't put that dog down. I only comment on the situation as it is.

If what you say were true, Rose's injury would be no excuse, Pau would have been a Bull a long time ago, etc.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Management does matter, IMO.

For instance, management can trade Will Purdue for Dennis Rodman. Its a risk given Rodman's questionable character, but its a risk that can pay off. Management could also not take the risk and stick with the status quo. The arena will fill up with MJ and Pip either way.

Management can be on the cutting edge when it comes to scouting new markets like Europe. If you are the first one there or one of the first you can end up with a Toni Kukoc. Or you can just do what every other team is doing and play it safe.

Players play the game. Management builds the teams. This has changed a bit the last few years though, since the advent of the Heat superteam. Another reason why Riley is great. He can adapt and succeed in different times and environments.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Orgs win championships. Orgs lose championships. Show me a team that had players that won a championship despite a bad organization. You can't. It is self defining. There are bad orgs that don't win championships. There are good orgs that don't win championships. There are, by definition really, no championship teams that are not the result of a "good" org.

Krause soundbite is just simplistic bait.

Put that dog down.

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Show me a team that won a championship without really good players.

People like to point to Detroit's one season as if that outlier proves something. It proves they went over the LT and won. It proves that they had 5 outstanding starters (players!).

 

Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

TB, you nailed it. Krause said it as a group "Atta Boy!" For the staffers and Jordan grabbed it as one if his borderline psycho motivational slights.

However, as Denny made clear, you can't put that dog down as long as someone needs that dog.


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Re: Sources: Carmelo Anthony leaning toward leaving Knicks; Bulls, Rockets in content

Some people will apologize for the bad things management has done, no matter what.