OT: LeBron to the Cavs

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It is a frightening prospect. I hope LeBron stays in Miami because I would rather deal with the Heat in the Finals instead of the Rockets in the WCF.

    Make no mistake, they will be the favorites too. With those three players, they will have arguably the best starting five in basketball.
     
  2. Draco

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    Tom Penn; who was a professional capologist for NBA teams; was on Sportscenter saying the Rockets could make that max offer to Bosh while keeping Parsons and Beverly. I'm going to trust him over some random website with unofficial numbers. Those figures are just estimates. The exact terms of NBA contracts aren't public and complicated things such as likely and unlikely incentives change the figures.
     
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    Yeah I'd definitely say they are the best starting 5. They have a real big 3 with Howard/Bosh/Harden that compliment each other. Beverly and Parsons are great starting options that don't need the ball to be effective. Outside of an injury they are strong favorites to make it through the west. The Spurs will be a year older with injuries to Patty and Ginobili. I think winning the title will dull some of that lazer focus motivation they had all of last year. The west is so competitive any team is going to have trouble when picked against the field but that Houston squad on paper is historic.
     
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    Shit if Houston gets Bosh and Match's Parsons deal they will be an amazing team for a small amount of time. It seems like they will be too expensive once they hit the repeater tax they will have to break up the team, which is also when Parsons would expire, but until then I would give that team the favorite to win the title every year.
     
  5. Natebishop3

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    They would have, arguably, the best shooting guard, the best center, and maybe the best power forward. People forget how good Bosh was before he went to Miami.
     
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    He was always soft on D (and always will be). LMA always destroyed him when they played and he will continue to do so. LMA is a much better defender than Bosh IMHO. I'm not concerned.
     
  7. Rhal

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    Bosh won't put up the numbers to be in that conversation, just wont have enough offensive numbers but he should be in the best defensive PF
     
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    Aldridge is better than Bosh but it's a small advantage. Dwight is miles better than Rolo. Combine those and their frontcourt whoops us. SF is a toss up. Can Dame/Wes vastly outplay Bev/Harden? It'll be very tough.
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    Numbers don't matter. If he went back to playing for a shitty team, he would be putting up numbers to be in the discussion. I think he still has to be considered one of the top power forwards.
     
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    Its been a long time since Bosh has had to shoulder the responsibility of being a focus of the opponents defense. Bosh is an amazing player and changed his game an incredible amount to fit in with Miami. I'm just not sure if he could change his game back to being the #1 or #2 option on a good team.
     
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    I think he's stepped up when LeBron or Wade was out.
     
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    I thought he had done a pretty well job when one of them was out but he had 25 games of 20+ points last year but only 10 of them came with one of LBJ/Wade missing the game. Its always been Bosh's D and efficiency that impressed me when he was on miami.
     
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    Bosh has outscored Aldridge, 7 games to 3. Rebounds are even, 4-4-2 (2 ties). This despite Aldridge playing more minutes, 7 games to 3. And not sharing stats with LeBron and Wade.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/fKKcu
     
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    Is the CBA FAQ wrong?

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

    A cap hold for salaries offered in offer sheets to restricted free agents (see question number 44).

    (Penn may be right IF the Mavs made no offer to Parsons)
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Maybe the FAQ isn't clear, but that's how I read it.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I believe that refers to the cap hold for the Mavs after signing Parsons to the offer sheet. The Rockets' cap hold doesn't change until/unless they decide to match.
     
  19. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Isn't there a 7 or 10 day window on how long they can wait to match Parson though? Which means they have to get Bosh to commit quickly.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Just 3 days. The SI article Rasta linked is a very good breakdown.
     

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