If CLE gets Love . . .

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Reep, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. donkiez

    donkiez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    4,235
    Likes Received:
    3,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the promise of Wiggins is greater than the reality of Love. Wings develop faster than bigs anyway and Wiggins will have LBJ to learn from. In 2-3 years Cleveland could have two of the best players in the NBA.
     
  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    Ya i kinda wanna see Bron and Wiggins together. Modern day MJ/Scottie potential
     
  3. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    It will be interesting to see if vets will go to Clev to play with Lebron. Clev is not South Beach, but LeBron is still LeBron

    Mike Miller comes to mind
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I probably would, because I usually prefer to bet on upside. Winning a championship is so difficult, it takes winning some gambles. Wiggins brings not only huge upside but also low salary. It would also depend on the filler...as long as the filler wasn't garbage on long-term deals.
     
  5. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    That remains to be seen. Nothing has fundamentally changed, so it's not clear that the deal is off the table. Both teams may be waiting to see how things shake out. I think Minnesota will eventually get more than two disappointing top picks, but they may have to wait.
     
  6. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,545
    Likes Received:
    3,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    South Jordan, UT
    James will turn 30 in December. You think he is playing solid until he is 40?

    My thought is that he has six more years at high level; a window similar to LAs. Dame will be peaked at that time, but LA will be heading down.

    There are too many uncertainties to make big decisions about this, but if Cavs get Love (I would swap Wiggins for him, and I bet James would too) and play great (win title), and next years Blazers don't improve, I could see Olshey factoring this into his nuclear option.
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,237
    Likes Received:
    145,445
    Trophy Points:
    115
    As Lebron gets older and loses some athleticism he'll slide into the PF position. And he'll give a team more from that position than Love ever could.
     
  8. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Treaty made some sense. LeBron and Wiggins are a generation apart. That wasn't the case of Scottie and Michael. Wiggins mentally and maturity wise may not be ready to win at the level LBJ is ready to win at. Won't be the case with Love.
     
  9. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I think Olshey has to at least have a conversation with Cleveland. But Love probably has more value out there in GM's eyes and Minny will take a discount given the Love situation.
     
  10. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If Portland was going to make such a deal they would have did it before the draft. The only way they move on LA is if he demands it.
     
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    True, but LeBron's presence should expedite Wiggins' development. Their window might not be long, but it could be better than any they can field with Love instead. Maybe it's just my disdain for Love, but I'd take the potential that AW offers as Minstrel mentioned above.
     
  12. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,237
    Likes Received:
    145,445
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Lebron mentioned Wiggins as one of his reasons for coming back to Cleveland. I doubt the Cavs trade him.
     
  13. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    31,701
    Likes Received:
    24,927
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where? He didn't mention Wiggins in his letter.
     
  14. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,237
    Likes Received:
    145,445
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Oops, my bad. I thought he did.
     
  15. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Elite players play a long time. Jordan, Malone, Duncan, Abdul-Jabbar, etc. Not every great player will last til 38+, but even if you change it to 6-8 years, I don't think you can just punt on that long and build for 2020.
     
  16. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One thing about it the Cavs are in such a better position now than where they were when he left. Maybe that was the plan all along. Leave for a few years. Allow them to build back up. Make my return. A blessing in disquise for that franchise. They will be interesting to watch.
     
  17. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    10,729
    Likes Received:
    7,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So maybe it's a hybrid of MJ/Pip and The Admiral/The Big FUNdamental? Now THAT'S a scary thought - the dominance of the Bulls with the longevity of the Spurs!

    Yes, trade LMA for Wiggins immediately to keep this from happening!
     
  18. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Or you could compare it to Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That worked out well for the Lakers.
     
  19. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    10,729
    Likes Received:
    7,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was trying to stick to duos that played similar positions (wings, bigs), but yeah, that works too! Either way we need to split them up!
     
  20. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    I can't see the Cavs giving up a player like Wiggins as part of a package to get Love.
     

Share This Page