OT LMAO Rockets, Bosh going back to Miami

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  1. B-Roy

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    Daryl Morey for President
     
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    They could, but without Asik and Lin against the Blazers, do they win a game in that series? I'm not sure anyone outside of Portland wants to see Jones defending LMA again in the post.
     
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    Dealing Ariza to put into motion a set of moves that gave you a chance to get Bosh as a third star, and ending up with Ariza when that fell through, is hardly stupid.

    I get that Blazers fans are gleeful that it fell through, because it's good for the Blazers and the West, but there's a big difference between something not working out and being stupid.

    Ultimately, for the chance to get Bosh (which almost happened) they traded Lin for Ariza and lost Asik. Losing Asik sounds bad on paper, but the Rockets were willing to deal him at the trade deadline for the cap space...being willing to lose him for the back half of the regular season and playoffs should indicate how important they considered him to them on the court.

    Morey took over the Rockets in time to watch the Yao/McGrady era disintegrate due to injury and he used his "stockpile assets" approach to get two superstars and almost a third. He's still one of the team-building models and a very smart, effective GM.
     
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    They'll likely have lost Lin, Asik and Parsons (who you've somehow completely overlooked) and have Ariza to show for it.
     
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    Now they have no backup point guard.

    They most likely won't have a backup small forward.

    And they have no backup center.
     
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    What makes you think they're planning to pass on Parsons? I think the much more likely case is they match and they struck this deal with Ariza now so they could fit it in before Parsons sucked up their cap room.

    I consider Ariza a better player than Lin (though, fit-wise, a point guard would be better). Losing Asik is certainly non-ideal, but I'd gamble Asik on the (pretty decent) chance to get Bosh.
     
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    They could, but that makes signing his backup, Ariza, to 8m/yr for 4 yrs sort of odd, considering I think they should have signed a pg or a big instead. But if they do, they'll have lost Lin, Asik and signed Parsons for 13m+ more than they needed to for this upcoming season, and have Ariza to show for it.
     
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    This is basically their last chance at cap space. Parsons was going to cost a ton either this year or next, so they willingly spent more this year to give themselves that last shot at max cap space. Having a shot at max space when you're already a borderline-elite team is pretty incredible and I don't blame him at all for taking the shot. Ultimately, Parsons costing more this year isn't going to hurt anything except the owner's bottom line because once they struck out on Bosh, there really wasn't going to be any other big ticket item that was realistic (and they couldn't roll it over to next year because Parsons would have required a big contract next year).

    Ultimately, I don't feel they lost much except Asik. That's not insignificant, but I don't think it's a crushing blow and well-worth the possibility of Bosh, IMO.

    I assume they picked up Ariza to get at least one more good player for their bench before their cap space evaporated for good in this (the Harden/Howard) era, not because they plan to let Parsons go.
     
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    can Houston sign and trade parsons to any one but dallas?
     
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    No, they can't even sign and trade him to Dallas since he signed the offer sheet. He's currently a Mavericks signing unless Houston matches.
     
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    what was all the kahn drama about trying to get us to take derrick Williams for batum in sign and trade?
     
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    kahn and morey remind me of each other and I've seen it written that both think they are always the smartest guy in the room.
     
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    I don't remember entirely, but I believe he pitched that to the Blazers, that off-season, before Batum signed an offer sheet with them.
     
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    The difference is that Morey has actually built a very good team and actually is smart. But I agree that both have that attitude, according to what's been written.
     
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    Is there really any indication that Bosh was likely to sign? It seems like Morey just assumed that if LeBron left Miami, Bosh would leave too.
     
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    I recall reports (which aren't conclusive, of course) that Bosh was seriously considering Houston in addition to Miami. My own perception that once James went to Cleveland, Houston's chances went up a lot and it was rather shocking to the league at large that Bosh remained in Miami. But I don't know any of that for sure.
     
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    groupthink definitely had bosh going to houston
     
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    I just don't think it's that surprising. He already has two rings. He's not a guy who is going to get a ton of endorsements (sort of in the mold of a LaMarcus Aldridge,) so I don't blame him for taking the extra cash.
     

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