Secular Morality

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  1. MarAzul

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    Of course, the rip off people were getting from the priest who butchered the lambs were what set him into a rage.
     
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    does it?

     
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    yeah, except war. killing motherfuckers has always been celebrated.
     
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    How many people do you know? Your "personal examples" are an extremely small sample size. We have billions of people on this planet.
     
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    so until noah it wasnt cool? interesting
     
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    And then god changes his mind.

    Deuteronomy 14:7

    However, of those that chew the cud or that have a divided hoof you may not eat the camel, the rabbit or the hyrax. Although they chew the cud, they do not have a divided hoof; they are ceremonially unclean for you.
     
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    There's no genetic component to murder is wrong. The first tool used by man was likely used to kill another. Many societies sacrificed humans or fed Christians to lions, etc.

    It's only our ability to reason that we don't kill.
     
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    Oh, and by the way, a discussion on the origin of morality is very interesting, but I don't think it needs to be either secular or religious. I think if you checked any maximum security prison we would find a lot of religious people. Both groups have shitheads.
     
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    Also doesn't every moving thing include people?
     
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    No, I was just explaining you were dead wrong about Genesis saying you cannot eat meat.
     
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    Back then, that was called "marriage."
     
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    Possible, but still doesn't change the fact that Brainiac was wrong about Genesis saying you cannot eat meat.
     
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    i was asking man, hence the question mark, all i could remember off hand was the beginning

    thanks for the history lesson though! :cheers:
     
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    Best answer so far! And this is the separation between a man and a lion. We can reason, therefor make judgements based on "what is moral"
     
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    You are most welcome! :cheers:
     
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    The use of the term Secular Morality set me off. It seems to be a well discussed subject but never defined.
     
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    Just because murder is around doesn't mean there is no genetic component against it. It can be a predisposition to thinking in a certain way. But that predisposition needs to be overridden for the purpose of self preservation.
     
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    I think its pretty hilarious how we debate morality, then it becomes a christian vs. atheist or agnostic view.

    The question isn't "Christians are moral and atheists aren't". The debate should be "What would a naturalist use for their moral map?"

    But yet again, the uptight atheists or agnostics get all defensive and start throwing out why the Bible is immoral. LOL
     
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    havent they proven other animals "reason" though? like the electrified food dish, or pushing the red button for a treat or whatever. but thats all self preservation.

    i think that when i do bad things, i feel bad. other animals dont have a conscience maybe?
     
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    I actually think this is actually the better answer.

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