Chris Kyle trial: Jesse Ventura wins $1.8 million in defamation case

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Jesse Ventura, suing for money from the widow of a dead soldier.

    What a guy.
     
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    Not just a dead solider, the greatest sniper in Navy Seal history.
     
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    Yep. Seems like bullshit.
     
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    If you have the time you guys should read the other articles as this trial was going on.

    Chris Kyle trial


    It was a very fascinating case. Kyle claimed he hit Ventura in a bar. Ventura said it never happened. Ventura claims that his reputation has been damaged by those false allegations. (Personally I think the crackhead shit Ventura spouts is what has hurt his reputation but that is besides the point.)
     
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    The funny thing is that a large part of Ventura's claim was that the story about the punch ostracized Ventura from the SEAL community. Gee Jesse, I wonder how this one will go over at the next SEAL get-together. There will be a line of SEALs looking to punch him, I'm guessing.
     
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    His conspiracy TV show was unintentional comedy. The Denver airport episode is a classic in kooky conjecture. I'm not saying that the murals at DIA aren't fucking weird, and I've seen them in person, but the leaps in logic he makes, as well as ending almost every "claim" in the form of a question, was brilliant TV. It made him look like a loon, but it was great TV.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    I feel inclined to believe Ventura. He seems to value his service tremendously even if he is a loon. Kyle's family made millions from the book but all I ever heard about it was the Jesse Ventura story. I think it probably helped sales. That $1.8-million or whatever it gets whittled down to might be a direct profit from the bar story people were curious about. I don't know what would motivate Kyle to make that up--it's possible Ventura was more intoxicated than he lets on or that he's got an even looser grasp on reality than previously imagined--but it was a pretty nasty thing to write (and talk about on radio) about another veteran true or not.
     
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    A young widow who is making over $10 million from the book and upcoming major movie. Most of the profit is caused by the Ventura anecdote. Her liar husband, who made a living on his unverified claim to be the best Army* sniper, was previously caught in other lies.

    Had Jesse dropped the lawsuit when her husband died, it would be giving up on ever proving that it was a lie. That validation was the main point of the suit.

    Also had he dropped it, the moviemakers would have been unintimidated to make the anecdote the highlight of the movie. Now they will barely mention it.

    *Edit: Make that Navy
     
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    It must be pretty easy to sue a dead man that can't tell his side of the story other than through a tape.
     
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    Multiple witnesses saw the incident and told about it during the trial. The problem was that everybody there was drunk, Ventura included, so no two stories were identical.

    Ventura is a self-aggrandizing charlatan, so I'm guessing it won't trouble him to take money from a widow and her children, but any respect I once had for the guy is gone. Seems like a gigantic douchebag, as well as a conspiracy kook. Ventura has made millions in his life, and because people are now tired of his act, he went for one more money grab.
     
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    Actually, the standards to prove libel aren't easy at all. But it was sure obvious in this case. She got off easy because she lost only a small percentage of the royalties.
     
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    The "best sniper in the Navy" was the biggest self-promoter of all. There is no objective way to rank snipers, since many served in peacetime.
     
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    You're on ignore until you can end these personal attacks.
     
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    Great news. This means I will win every argument with you, since you won't know what I say.

    As for insulting you by calling you Papa, I'm sorry Newsource. No one should ever be called that.
     
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    What Ventura should do is only take the amount of money necessary to pay his lawyers, as well as the time he spent at this trial.

    He's a piece of shit, though, so I imagine he'll take the entire amount. What I don't at all understand is how Ventura isn't considered a public figure. Didn't anyone else see The People vs. Larry Flynt? The Supreme Court has already decided this Ventura case, so I expect it to be reversed upon appeal.

    If it isn't, that opens up a huge can of worms about how we as citizens can talk about public figures.
     
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    Interesting all the criticism about the verdict yet posters only know a fraction of the evidence.

    It was Ventura burden to prove his case and it was a high burden. He proved his case and was awarded damages. Why isn't the person who was found to fabricated a story about Ventura the one who is looked down upon?
     
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    If he doesn't take it all, other liars will think they can get away with it, too. Send them a message, Jesse.

    Why does the millionaire widow deserve to profit off of him? The Oregonian article says she's getting $6M from the book. And probably double that from the movie. She's a lot richer than Jesse, and didn't earn a dime of it.

    But sexist men think women should be put on a pedestal.
     
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    Of course he's looked down upon. In fact, you have to look six feet down, to be exact.
     

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