Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexually'

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Nope. I also question the benefit of arresting, trying, imprisoning and saddling them with the life-long title of "sex offender".

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Why do people care about what Michele Bachmann thinks?

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Skimming through this I don't know if posters understand that in Oregon:

when a defendant is charged with engaging in sexual intercourse with a victim who "does not consent" and "the victim's lack of consent was due solely to incapacity to consent by reason of being less than a specified age, it is a defense that the actor was under three years older than the victim at the time of the alleged offense."


Also in the tri-county area, prosecutors will prosecute regardless if the parents or the victim does not want to prosecute.

Statutory rape is not something that is treated lightly in this state . . . and I completely agree with this policy.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I'm learning 2 things about Denny here.

He is just an old-fashioned conservative, not some new Independent/Libertarian/Trickle Down/Whatever. He rations out freedom not by the rights of the boyfriend and girlfriend aged 14, but by whether we adults want teenage pregnancies. The same-old Top-Down method to designing freedom.

He matured sexually later than most people. He has no clue as to why most of us were big rebels at age 16. He thinks we were all vulnerable victims of senior, wise old 18-year-olds.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Wait.....what? Half the ordinary guys on the street are felons? I'm amazed, if this is true. Do you have a link to this?

Fishing without a license is a felony? For a citation? I thought crimes that can result in a sentence of a year or less were misdemeanors. No?

Go Blazers

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Now we know the inspiration for timber porn trolls.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Curious about the term "lady professor". Has Denny ever referred to a professor who is male as a "gentleman professor"?

Many states are using what they call "Romeo and Juliet" laws; if a couple are within a few years of each other and in a relationship, to clarify stat rape law. A 15 year old who dated an 18 year old for a year before sexual contact is not the same as a 30 year old and a 6 year old. As with any age based law you can debate the line. Some 16 year olds should not drive but some 30 year olds should not either. Some 21 year olds don't drink responsibly but some 50 year olds don't either. Etc. Laws at best deal with a hypothetical "average" maturity.

When I was 15 I was deeply in love with a person who was 18. Not in a million years can it be said to have harmed me. I accelerated my way through school (I really hated high school) and in consequence I was a 16 year old college student at Berkeley living on my own; and my girlfriend was 26. I can assure you I was not harmed.

Sadly, stat rape laws even when it's a couple close in age are vastly more likely to be filed by parents when:
1) relationship is interracial
2) relationship is gay

Many state "Romeo and Juliet" laws apply only to straight teens, so an 18 year old man with a 17 year old girlfriend are OK but an 18 year old woman with a 17 year old girlfriend is not. In fact last year an 18 year old high school student was charged and now has to register for life as a sex offender for having consensual relations with her teenage girlfriend. She and her girlfriend had been together for over a year; the other girl's parents waited until she turned 18 so they could criminally charge her.

 

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Allow me to be politically incorrect, but as long as the child is not of the age of consent, parents have every right to object to any kind of relationship in which their children engage. If a parent chooses to object to interracial or gay relationships--as distasteful as many find bigotry--a parent has every right to do so, both legally and morally.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

crandc, do you know which states have this distinction. I don't know all the different state laws but this surprises me and seems like an unconstitutional distinction on it's face.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Problem I see with giving parents discretion to prosecute:

-parents often disagree themselves

- some parent are so anti-authority or distrusting of law enforcement they will by nature never agree to get law enforcement involved

- some parents have would sell their own children to johns to make money and those are the parents who would be deciding who should be prosecuted

-joint custody in divorce cases would pose a problem as decisions may be made based on being vindictive to the other parent

-parents would use the ability to prosecute a s/o of a child as leverage to control a child's life

-some parents suffer from mental disabilities or addictions that would otherwise prevent them from making good choices


Basically in a perfect world where you have loving parent(s) who make rationale decisions based on the best interest of the child, giving control to the parents makes some sense. But too often I suspect the decisions made by the parents would be made based on factors that would not be in the best interest of the child.

 

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Okay, then who would be in a better position than parents to determine "the best interest(s) of the child"?