Chris Kyle trial: Jesse Ventura wins $1.8 million in defamation case

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  1. RR7

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    I just skipped ahead to where he left the show, but seems like sensationalist headlining. Came this close to beating him up? Gimme a break.

    As for can of worms...we can talk about public figures all we want. But if you want to make money off of lying about a story about them, then expect to have to pay a chunk of that money back to the individual for it.
     
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    Whatever. I think Venture is a conspiracy kook who preys on the weak-minded.
     
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    It's not like both sides didn't have attorneys. If it was some conspiracy drummed up by Ventura, you would think the other sides's lawyers could show this.

    Legal experts had said Ventura had to clear a high legal bar to win, since as a public figure he had to prove "actual malice." According to the jury instructions, Ventura had to prove with "clear and convincing evidence" that Kyle either knew or believed what he wrote was untrue, or that he harbored serious doubts about its truth.

    Jury found by clear and convincing evidence that Kyle fabricated the story.
     
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    I once punched Jesse Ventura in the face.
     
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    Did defense attorneys for the estate of "American Sniper" author Chris Kyle make a strategic error in the final days of the Jesse Ventura defamation trial?

    That's a question some court observers are asking after a split jury in St. Paul, Minn., awarded $1.8 million to the former Minnesota governor.

    Under the usual rules, a federal trial in Minnesota ends in a deadlock and must be retried if a jury fails to reach a unanimous decision. But when the Ventura jurors failed to reach a verdict after several days of deliberations, defense and plaintiffs attorneys agreed to accept a split verdict, and jurors found 8-2 against the defense.

    Speaking for Chris Kyle's defense team, attorney John Borger said Tuesday the verdict was disappointing and the team will evaluate their legal options in the case. Borger said he called Chris Kyle's widow, Taya, with the news. "She was very surprised and very upset," he said.

    Asked if agreeing to a split verdict was a mistake, he said, "That was a strategic call that seemed appropriate at the time."

    Others questioned their decision.

    "I think it's a strategic error," said David Schultz, a professor of law and political science at Hamline University in St. Paul. "I'm surprised that the defense agreed to it."

    Schultz said the defense had nothing to lose with a hung jury. If the jury couldn't reach a verdict, Ventura would have had to pay to retry the case. That could have cost him much more than $100,000 in additional costs.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswe...is_kyle_trial_did_defense_a.html#incart_river
     
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    What exactly do you disagree with in my statement?
     
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    We disagree.
     
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    You said that people should be held responsible. Newssource said they shouldn't. It's pretty obvious that you're right and he's wrong.
     
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    What exactly do you disagree with in my statement?
     
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    I disagree. I don't want to get into details. No worries.
     
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    During the trial, all daily pictures of her leaving showed her smirking at the camera, feeling superior to Jesse Ventura, treating the trial as a joke. Apparently she listened to her own self-promotion too much, just like her disrespectful husband, who had stretched other tales besides this one.

    When the jury compromised on an 8-2 vote, it would have compromised the award, too. 80% of the jury probably wanted about $2.5 M, and 20% wanted 0, so $1.8M it was.
     
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    If Jesse hadn't sued the wealthy widow, he couldn't have proven in a court of law that the self-promoting "fallen hero" was a liar. Read about some of the other tales the "fallen hero" stretched.
     
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    then why bother responding?
    I just don't see what I had said that is actually disagreeable, but whatever.
     
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    I disagree.

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    Ouch . . . talk about second guessing a move. That decision could not have been easy. Defense must have been feeling confident about their case or figured the evidence was as good as it was going to get for the defense to accept a split verdict.

    I disagree that the defense had nothing to lose by having a mistrial. The cost to the defendant to have her trial team re-try the case would probably be in the six figures . . . but obviously in hind site it was a bad call to agree to a split verdict.
     
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    On the news every day, she smirked at all the conservative reporters smiling at her like, Why are we going through with this? But the pundits were wrong.

    As usual, the conservative side thought that laughing at liberals causes conservatives to be in the majority.

    As usual, conservatives lost, once it was taken out of the controlled media's hands and put to a vote.

    She and her lawyers opted for the split verdict, confident that they would easily win, that you can kick around a famous liberal with a lie and get away with it.
     
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    I thought the Larry Flynt trial was all about satire that wasn't intended to be believed. This is completely different.
     
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