Over 1,500 Christians killed in Iraq yesterday and nobody cares

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  1. Further

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    This is totally sad and I'd love for a good option, but i think there are so many negatives that come with boots on the ground that it's not worth it in the long run for our nation. Dropping bombs, which Obama and our Military is already doing seems like the right level of evolvement to me. If the persecuted make it out of Iraq they could apply for and hopefully receive asylum in America, but that's about it.
     
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    I just was reading that the weapons we bombed yesterday were USA made.
     
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    I think we should respect how people believe with such conviction that they are willing to die for that belief.

    Do we need to give them visas to come to this country? I just don't see how that is relevant? They are fine staying where they are because they feel their reward is eternity.
     
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    How is the USA not respecting them? Or how do you think the USA should respect them? Does that mean arming them? Landing troops there? Do we do that for the Christians only or for all of the minorities under attack in Iraq?
     
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    The US?! I'm talking about those in this thread. But let's be honest here... When Putan made a declaration that anyone gay would go to prison, many wanted to boycott the Olympics or make sure that law is not exercised in Russia.

    Should we give them visas or arm themselves against the tyranny of Russia?
     
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    yeah we gave them to "iraq"

    to stupid to be true, but its business as usual
     
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    we should bomb russia, obviously
     
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    Do you think that?
     
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    I'm in favor of giving all of the attractive Russian women visas first.
     
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    Christians in Iraq are terrorists, from the viewpoint of most of Iraq's citizenry. They are primarily transplanted westerners living there for the sole purpose of "converting" Iraqis to Christianity. They deliberately stirred up a hornet's nest by disrespecting all other religions there and now they can deal with the consequences of their actions.

    Certainly no reason for Americans to lose lives over it.
     
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    Seriously, do you think before you post?

    The Christians of Iraq are considered to be one of the oldest surviving continuous Christian communities in the world. The vast majority are Eastern Aramaic-speaking ethnic Assyrians; however, there is a very small community of Armenians, too.

    Christianity was brought to Iraq in the 1st century AD by the Apostles Thomas and Addai (Thaddaeus) and his pupils Aggagi and Mari. Thomas and Thaddeus belonged to the twelve Apostles.[6] Iraq's Eastern Aramaic speaking Assyrian Christian communities are believed to be among the oldest in the world.
    The Assyrian people adopted Christianity in the 1st century AD[5] and Assyria became the centre of Eastern Rite Christianity and Syriac literature from the 1st century AD until the Middle Ages. In the early centuries after the Arab Islamic conquest, native Assyrian (known as Ashuriyun by the Arabs) scholars and doctors played an influential role in Iraq, however, from the late 13th century AD through to the present time, Assyrian Christians have suffered both religious and ethnic persecution, including a number of massacres.[7] Northern Iraq remained predominantly Assyrian, Eastern Aramaic speaking and Christian until the destructions of Tamerlane at the end of the 14th century. The Assyrian Church of the East has its origin in what is now South East Turkey and Assuristan (Sassanid Assyria). By the end of the 13th century there were twelve Nestorian dioceses in a strip from Peking to Samarkand. When the 14th-century Muslim warlord of Turco-Mongol descent, Timur (Tamerlane), conquered Persia, Mesopotamia and Syria, the civilian population was decimated. Timur had 70,000 Assyrian Christians beheaded in Tikrit, and 90,000 more in Baghdad.[8][9] A new epoch began in the 17th century when Emir Afrasiyab of Basra allowed the Portuguese to build a church outside of the city. In the year of Iraq´s formal independence, 1933, the Iraqi military carried out large-scale massacres against the Assyrians (Simele massacre) which had supported the British colonial administration before.[5]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iraq
     
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    So in other words, if they are Christians, they deserve to die?
     
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    If the Olympics were being held in Iraq I bet there would be even more people wanting to boycott. But that's not the case. You are wanting people to do something, but the options are severely fucking limited. A) do nothing at all. B) bomb Isis and try to lessen the threat from afar. C) have very limited numbers of troops there to train and organize the logistics, but not do any fighting. D) arm the Iraqis to overthrow Isis. E) put boots on the ground and go back in for actual combat. The US is already doing B,C and D, so what the fuck else should we be doing, I mean aside from complaining on the Internet and sounding tough.
     
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    I don't want people to do anything but respect the bravery of those that care enough about their belief, that they are willing to die for it.

    Show me where I posted America should intervene?
     
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    Someone's been watching Star Wars movies, recently. And not even the good ones. The drone army ones.
     
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    So do you respect the bravery of an Islamic martyr? Willing to die for their beliefs.
     
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    Mags, I never said you said they should intervene, just that the tone of this thread, that we need to do something is off base. We are doing something, quite a bit in fact, but short of boots on the ground.
     
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    I do
     
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