God's not dead

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  1. RR7

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    oops, sorry for that!
     
  2. RR7

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    You generalize atheists ALL the time on here mags, and assume they're all the same. And of course, because people bought a Dawkins book, it means...I dunno. So be it.
     
  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    First off, it is annoying that threads started by ignored users are still shown. Second, I don't follow other atheists or read or really care about what others think. So, if I make an argument that sounds just like something that has been written before..tough shit.

    Here goes....

    I went to church until I was a teenager. They told me God was omnipotent and could do ANYTHING, YES ANYTHING.

    We sang hymns about how nothing is impossible for God.

    So, I quickly realized that it was bullshit.

    God could make everyone happy, no starvation around the world. No rape or torture or genocide or....blah blah blah. You get it.

    I don't know how to be more articulate about it so I will use coarse language.

    If the things I was taught in church are real God is an asshole on a level higher than anything I can describe. He is like the guy who fed the squirrel at the grand canyond and then kicked it over the edge.

    To me anyone who buys that bullshit is a mental defective. I don't want in on the deal ok. It shouldn't be too much to ask to be able to die and cease to exist.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I just really couldn't care either way. Christian or not a christian. That's your deal. I don't really feel like I fall into a category, and I find it pointless to debate the topic, so I don't even bother. I do enjoy talking to people about their beliefs though. It's interesting to hear some of the differing opinions on what people think happens after death.
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    What church preaches that? The typical human behavior... Blame someone else for what we as a people did on our own.

    Free will is a bitch. We can even freely choose to believe God was the reason why I decided to shoot someone
     
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    i don't know if God is dead or alive or if ever existed. BUt I do know as the baby boom generation gets older, there is a buck to made on the topic:

    This weekend, the little-known and small-budget “God’s Not Dead,” a narrative about a Christian college student who must defend his faith in front of an aggressive philosophy professor who makes each of his students sign a pledge affirming that God does not exist, took in more than $8.5 million Friday through Sunday – a surprising fifth-place in this weekend’s box office numbers.

    Even more startling, say observers, is the fact that the movie, aimed toward Evangelical Christians, was shown in only 780 theaters – far fewer than those ahead of it, each of which were showing on more than 3,000 screens. Featuring cameos by “Duck Dynasty” stars Willie and Korie Robertson, “God’s Not Dead” beat nearly every other movie this weekend on an earnings-per-screen basis.

    “While this huge opening may be a surprise to the industry, it is not so much to us,” said Mark Borde, co-president of Freestyle Releasing, the film’s distributor, said over the weekend. “The in-house tracking, the legitimate one million Facebook fans, the very high trending on Twitter and Fandango, among many other platforms, and the huge positive reaction from the hundreds of screenings over the many past months, gave us hope for a significant opening.”

    While not a blockbuster of biblical proportions, the small film’s significant success this weekend comes at a time when Hollywood has been trying to capitalize yet again on the faith-based market, which also made a hit out of “Son of God” earlier this month. The film was condensed from the History Channel’s smash TV hit, “The Bible,” and has taken in nearly $56 million since its release Feb. 28.
     
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    Maybe we just enjoy philosophical debate
     
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    sounds like the plot of the South Park shit episode
     
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    well.. Yngwie Malmsteen I'll admit
     
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    Except one is a diehard fire and brimstone YEC fundamentalist, the other is comparatively very progressive.
     
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    True dat.
     
  12. MadeFromDust

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    One correction, I am not a young earth creationist per-se, but I do believe earth was created by God and that we have only walked on this world for roughly 6-10,000 years because that's where the archaeological documentation and evidence leads (because if you believe it took hundreds of thousands of years for humans to learn to read and write, and did right around the time when the Bible says we were created, then I have a bridge to sell you). As for how old the actual earth or universe is, that's impossible to know. Other than that, you're spot on.
     
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    Cool, but with the possibility of an old earth on the table do you allow for the possibility that evolution could have been the means by which God caused the human form to come into being, so he could impart souls when the form was adequate? (presumably at a point coinciding with the origin of written language). As long as you are considering actual evidence (and diverging from strict YEC sites like AiG) that seems like a logical step. If you don't think God's days have to be 24 hours it doesn't seem like that big a deal if the rest of Genesis 1 happened to be allegorical rather than literal.

    The time the Bible says we were created is based on extrapolation of genealogy. Not sure why it would be too coincidental if the beginning of recorded genealogy happened to match up with the invention of written language.
     
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    Why is me believing in Evolution so important to you? Is it like a win for you in some way? And no I don't believe it, at least not in the sense that you do. I have researched it and the so-called evidence for it is lacking and there are fatal holes in the theory, as well as some laughable reaches being made. There are also other explanations that are equally valid if not better. I have condemned Evolution as the answer to God by the Godless man who wishes to sin in peace.

    And I don't feel like opening up this long drawn out discussion again. Clearly you have your beliefs just as I have mine, as much as we staunchly disagree with each other.
     
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    It's not. Christians with some capacity for actual objectivity (such as Mags on occasion) seeing how screwed up the thought processes of science-deniers like yourself are is somewhat important, in the same sense moderate Muslims marginalizing radicals is.
     
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    That would explain why 40% of Christians in the USA believe in evolution.
     
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    Excuse me? I love science. Don't care for psuedo-science though, especially kinds that don't follow the basic scientific method.
     
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    Probably because it is forced on them by our public education system. They aren't taught how to think but rather what to think. It's a shame and what I call the godless "secular agenda".
     
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    Common sense not allowed
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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