I'm in a try to use the voice type feature. I think some people believe that if you suffer from severe depression suicide isn't a selfless act
He has three children who he left behind. It's cowardly and selfish, IMO. His kids are always going to have to live knowing their dad would rather die than be their dad, and two of them are still in their early 20s.
They probably are going to be angry at first. Later on they'll have an understanding that he was sick in the head.
I was 22 when I found out my father killed himself. So again, I don't have to think, I know. Pretty closed minded statement there. Really fucking insensitive. I'm ashamed that I messaged sly petitioning for your unbanning.
I'm sorry for your loss. My dad's brother killed himself, too, and left behind two kids. We all deal with things differently, I suppose. I feel that it helped lead to my own dad's death 13 years ago, because he could never understand why his brother killed himself, and why how he could leave behind the kids, who were in their teens. So, he drank a bit too much, and didn't take his blood pressure meds consistently. I'm sorry that I offended you, but I'm not sorry for my opinion on suicide being a cowardly act.
Wanna know something creepy? I talked to 3 people minutes before they died. 1.) one of the business partners just came off the phone with me, saying how much he's going to enjoy working with our company. Minutes later I get a call that he shot himself in the head. 2.) an old customer of mine just broke up with his girl and said he was gonna do something stupid. I tried talking him out of it but he said it was too late. Minutes later, he went to the park and shot her in front of her kid. Then turned the gun on himself. 3.) another potential customer was talking to me minutes before he boarded his plane. Told me he would call me when he lands. I found out his plane crashed minutes after take off and he died.
"would rather die than be their dad" is incredibly insensitive when responding to some one who just said they know what the family is going through. You should be absolutely disgusted with the impulsiveness, and insensitivity you displayed in that post. I learned long ago not to let the 'opinions' of people like you affect me. Apologize for what ever you want to mask that closed minded mess with...
No, I'm not ashamed. You should be ashamed for thinking that you have the only authoritative opinion on how suicide affects a family. Seems rather selfish to me.
I talked to my dad 20 minutes before his aorta burst and he died instantly. We were talking about the 2001 World Series while we he was in Missoula, and I was in Portland. My mom was sitting in the chair next to him. He was 56 and in great health, except for the blood pressure and the 2 or 3 gin and tonics after work. He also had called my brother 10 minutes before he called me. He died instantly, and my wife and I (before kids) literally were in the car to Missoula an hour later. I stayed there for a month with my mom.
To me, people who commit suicide have issues that fucks them up in the head, whether it be substance abuse, medical, financial or personal problems or what not. They cannot think (or act) rationally so I don't consider what they do to be selfish acts. I mean technically, if you look at it from afar, yeah, its selfish to have to have everyone around you suffer while one takes the supposed "easy route", but I don't think they're being selfish per se, they just can't handle the cards they are dealt. I don't know, it sucks all around for everyone. I'm not ready to call someone selfish because of it. Its just tragic for all.
I'm 15 years removed from my uncle killing himself, and have seen how it impacted his sons. If you want to think I have my head up my ass, that's fine. I hope you get the help you need, because one of my cousins is living on the streets in San Francisco. He never came to terms with it, and believe me, we all tried so hard to help him, and still do to this day. I think he's gone, though, mentally, and he has been in and out of rehab more times than I remember.
I agree. It's tricky, it can be done selfishly, it can be done un selfishly. You see people like mags' old customer who kill an ex and then the self = selfish. Or you have people who struggled with a rough life from childhood into being an adult, and find out they are about to battle another miserable bout of cancer. It's not always selfish, but it can be.
