Just my 2 cents.....

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  1. Rick2583

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    I know we've touched on this before but I needed to add my additional 2 cents.....

    Currently the Yankees have retired 17 numbers. 7 of which IMO should not have been retired. 1 of those 7 I'm really okay with but NOT for the player that it was retired for. I'll explain.

    1) Billy Martin (Hell no) Earle Combs was more deserving wearing #1 for 12 seasons while batting a career 325. But #1 should still be open.

    3) Babe Ruth - (YES)
    4) Lou Gehrig - (YES)
    5) Joe DiMaggio - (YES)
    7) Mickey Mantle - (YES)
    8) Bill Dickey - (YES)
    8) Yogi Berra - (YES)
    9) Roger Maris - (NO) I know he had that one remarkable season & 3 or 4 other good seasons but all in all he had maybe 5 good years while wearing the pinstripes. IMO not worthy of a retired # but yes to a plaque.

    10) Phil Rizzuto - (NO) Like Bob Sheppard a plaque for his many yrs in the broadcast booth.

    15) Thurmon Munson (NO) Not saying no to Munson just to him having the #. No.15 should have been retired many years earlier for Red Ruffing. 15 seasons (1930-1946) (2 yrs military) Yankee record of 231-124 with 4 twenty win seasons. I mean hell how can you have Guidry (170-91) & not Ruffing?

    16) Whitey Ford (YES)
    23) Don Mattingly (NO) A plaque DEFINITELY but 5-6 good years don't warrant his # being retired IMO.

    32) Elston Howard (YES)
    37) Casey Stengal (YES)
    42) Mariano Rivera (YES)
    44) Reggie Jackson (NO) This honor was not only a joke but IMO deminished the honors going forward.

    49) Ron Guidry (NO)

    And while I'm on this horse of mind I also don't think either Gossage or Martinez deserved a plaque.
     
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    According to the OP- we were getting your 2 Cents......we got a buck, do you want the change back......?

    :lol:

    PS: what about Tom Tresh.....?
     
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    Buy a bag of cheetos & send them over to Ron.

    And Tresh was one of my favorite players. ROY in 1962 followed by 3-4 solid years but then just went flat & retired in 69 at the young age of 30.
     
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    I disagree with Mattingly & Munson, disagree with Maris and Rizzuto as well, but not as strongly...
     
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    Done Deal....Cheetos on the way.....

    So, no Tresh, whadda' bout Pepitone.......?
     
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    Munson is deserving based on his leadership alone & whatever # he would have been given had the Yankees done right by Ruffing. I stand by the others, mostly Rizzuto, Sorry Steve I loved the guy in the booth (my all time favorite) but his playing #s do not warrant a retired #, plaque only.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rizzuph01.shtml

    Even his MVP was undeserving IMO. I know back then it usually went to a team member that was in the WS but he had 2 team mates that were more deserving. Berra & DiMaggio.
     
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    will oneils number be retired? no one wants to touch it it seems
     
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    You mean they DID NOT retire Paul's number just the other day, on P.O. day.....? Why have a day for an ex-great player, if your not going to retire his number. Otherwise its just a big clusterfk hoopla of a pointless day...IMO..!
     
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    I see what you mean regarding Rizzuto... Definitely a plaque for his booth time...
     
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    It was basically the same thing they did for Martinez & Gossage though Paul IMO was the only one deserving of the day.
     
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    Thanks for the Info...Rick

    Sad, they didn't at least retire a real Yankee Great's Number......O'Neill was one of the few in his time, to play without letting injury slow him down....!
     

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