Obama: executive order

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    My point was that hyperbole is a tool; don't overuse it.
     
  2. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Okay we can say 3 fold? The debt has tripled since Obama has come to office? And this after Bush already double it.

    That's pretty hard to do, so I think the delivery still paints a scary picture.
     
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    He didn't change a law - he changed an administrative rule. No one ever questioned the power of the executive branch to do that until the last couple decades. If the executive branch has no authority to manage the federal bureacracy - why have an executive branch?

    WTF people? I didn't vote for Bush, but I didn't spend 8 years pissing in my kilt over every little thing he did.
     
  4. DaLincolnJones

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  5. magnifier661

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    It's odd that the article in the OP tries to cite religious universities as potentially affected by this. In what way are religious universities supposedly federal contractors?
     
  7. blue32

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    Thanks for the examples to bring perspective. While it shows that this is nothing new, it still chaps my spurs a little bit that this is even possible.... (regardless of what problem its solving).
     
  8. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Maybe for research?
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    I would think that research grant money is a completely different animal.
     
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    It chaps your spurs that the President has been explicitly given oversight of running the administrative side of the federal government?
     
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    As far as laws are concerned, the President is charge with seeing they are faithful executed.

    " he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States."

    No where is he granted authority to create the law.

    This President does not know what is job is and sure as hell doesn't do what should be done.
    It makes no difference what another President has done, right or wrong.
     
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    Except that this is his job, managing how federal contracts are handed out, a power granted by Congress and interpreted by the Supreme Court.
     
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    truth be told, if he is micro managing how federal contracts are handed out, he is an inept leader
     
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    Who said he's "micromanaging?" I said "managing," of which setting the high level policies, including qualifications like this, is a part. The low level workings are handled by functionaries in the various departments of the federal government.
     
  16. maxiep

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    I think all executive orders should have a sunset provision for the end of their term (meaning a max of four years). If they're re-elected, they can renew them. If it's someone else, they can choose to reaffirm them or let them expire.
     
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    hmm dunno, could be its just me but seems like there are far more important things to worry about other than some political pander play...whipping up votes is the priority that is on display
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    That's almost how it works. The new president can write his own orders, undoing previous ones. The ones he leaves alone are reaffirmed.
     
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    I get it. I'm simply saying there is a difference between doing nothing and letting an executive order roll and actively having to reaffirm it. The latter makes you a policy participant.
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    You could end up throwing out so many good executive orders that the cost and time to analyze them all would be absurd. There are tens of thousands of them.

    They'll end up reaffirming them all in one swoop. Omnibus style.
     

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