Being a good shotblocker has to do more with help side defense than 1 on 1 defense. Just because Jermaine swats alot of shots, it doesn't mean he's one of the best defenders in the League. I would probably give him top 15 though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>3.5 bpg!And he isn't one of the best defenders? Please. Wait till you play us and then judge. Cause chances are, he will have 5 blocks.</div>No, chances are he has 3 or 4 blocks. The ten I mentioned are better, thats why he isn't top ten. I've seen the Pacers play quite a bit, since I'm a Piston fan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 22 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Being a good shotblocker has to do more with help side defense than 1 on 1 defense. Just because Jermaine swats alot of shots, it doesn't mean he's one of the best defenders in the League. I would probably give him top 15 though.</div>Yeah, most of his blocks do come from help-defense. 1 on 1 he doesn't block many shots, but he forces bad shots.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, most of his blocks do come from help-defense. 1 on 1 he doesn't block many shots, but he forces bad shots.</div> Would you stop bringing up the Pacers in every damn thread? I'm trying not to let it bother me but every thread in this board turns into something with the Pacers and I'm getting tired of it. I told you that this needed to stop before, this is my last warning. (This is not only about this thread but a couple I've looked over tonight). Jermaine O'Neal blocks shots and rebounds but he's not a top 10 defender in the NBA, period.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 22 2006, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would you stop bringing up the Pacers in every damn thread? I'm trying not to let it bother me but every thread in this board turns into something with the Pacers and I'm getting tired of it. I told you that this needed to stop before, this is my last warning. (This is not only about this thread but a couple I've looked over tonight). Jermaine O'Neal blocks shots and rebounds but he's not a top 10 defender in the NBA, period.</div>Subject: Best Defenders in the NBAStats: BPG - 1) Emeka Okafor 2) Jermaine O'neal 3) AK-47Forgive me for telling the truth
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, most of his blocks do come from help-defense. 1 on 1 he doesn't block many shots, but he forces bad shots.</div>Yeah, okay. He's a good defender, but he is not better at defense than the guys in the top 10.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>3.5 bpg!And he isn't one of the best defenders? Please. Wait till you play us and then judge. Cause chances are, he will have 5 blocks.</div>Dude averaging 3.5 bpg doesn't make you a top ten defender. Quit being such a homer. Allen Iverson gets a lot of steals so I guess that means he's a top 10 defender to huh? Who cares about the fact that he's mediocre at anything else on defense. And Emeka Okafor must be the best defensive player in the league then since he's averaging over 4 bpg huh?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Nov 22 2006, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude averaging 3.5 bpg doesn't make you a top ten defender. Quit being such a homer. Allen Iverson gets a lot of steals so I guess that means he's a top 10 defender to huh? Who cares about the fact that he's mediocre at anything else on defense. And Emeka Okafor must be the best defensive player in the league then since he's averaging over 4 bpg huh?</div>Never said that. There are several defensive categories. Take the top 3 from spg, bpg, and drpg and you got the best defenders.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never said that. There are several defensive categories. Take the top 3 from spg, bpg, and drpg and you got the best defenders.</div> No, your going completely by statistics. Andrei Kirilenko, Gerald Wallace and Shawn Marion put up huge defensive stats but the difference is that they are great 1 on 1 defenders as well.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Subject: Best Defenders in the NBAStats: BPG - 1) Emeka Okafor 2) Jermaine O'neal 3) AK-47Forgive me for telling the truth</div> This is not just about this topic. Yeah, bring up pointless BPG statistics after 10 games...doesn't prove anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never said that. There are several defensive categories. Take the top 3 from spg, bpg, and drpg and you got the best defenders.</div>Yeah, all of defense is based on getting blocks, steals, and rebounds, right? What about the actual defense part of it? Quit basing defense solely on stats.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never said that. There are several defensive categories. Take the top 3 from spg, bpg, and drpg and you got the best defenders.</div> Dude I don't even know how to respond to you after that. Has it ever occured to you that playing great lock down defense isn't a stat? You basically just said that guys like Bruce Bowen or Kobe Bryant aren't great defenders because it doesn't show in their stats...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 22 2006, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, bring up pointless BPG statistics after 10 games...doesn't prove anything.</div>Fine, I won't reply to this topic until the end of the year. Come on, what am I supposed to do, wait 6 months for the season to end, and then reply?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 22 2006, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, all of defense is based on getting blocks, steals, and rebounds, right? What about the actual defense part of it?</div>Exactly, you know how you could get some blocked shots? If the guy you were guarding, blew right passed you and you blocked him from behind. Thats horrible defense, I'm not saying thats what JO does, hes a pretty good defender. He's not a real great 1 on 1 defender, and stuff like that happens; where you get burned than you block him from behind..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Fine, I won't reply to this topic until the end of the year. Come on, what am I supposed to do, wait 6 months for the season to end, and then reply?</div>Yeah, guys, Bosh is the 2nd best rebounder in the League. Look at the stats so far.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fine, I won't reply to this topic until the end of the year. Come on, what am I supposed to do, wait 6 months for the season to end, and then reply?</div>Base it on the past lol. You really make no sense with some of your opinions. Do you then think that Zach Randolph is now a top 5 player in the league because he's put up great numbers so far? You make no sense at all.
no particular orderArtestBowenBen WallaceTim DuncanKevin Garnet Jason KiddTayshaun PrinceShawn MarionKobe Bryant Luol Deng
So damn hare thinking of the 10 so I am just going to post in no orderBruce BowenBen WallaceAdrian GriffinKobe BryantTayshaun PrinceShane BattierTim DuncanJason KiddLuol DengRon ArtestHonoarble Mention: Trenton Hassell
in no order1. tim duncan2. shane battier3. ben wallace4. ron artest5. gary payton6. kevin garnett7. andre kirilenko8. kobe bryant9. jason kidd10. bruce bowenhonerable mention....jalen rose :laughin1s celticballa I laugh everytime I look at your avy it's so funny lookin at doc do those moves.
