Why do liberal Americans want more and more and more rights too?

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Okay, let me rephrase this, as you had struck a nerve and my response was over the top. Do you think you'd be in the position you're currently in at that company, had you been born to say Will Barton's neighbor growing up in Baltimore?
     
  2. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So let me get this straight. Because I was fortunate to grow up with parents that work hard to provide for their kids (going bankrupt twice in process)?

    Or should I explain that our family didn't always have money. We had a family of 5 and lived in a 2 bedroom apartment in Clackamas after the first bankruptcy.

    Then while I was in high school, we lived in the poor community in the Antelope Valley. My first car was a $300 Toyota pick-up.

    I inherited a print shop that was in the red $5k every month. I worked 12 hour days, networking and building that business to earn $50k gross per month, from the previous $8k before that.

    Also, I loaned my father money for the business that is successful now (200k). I didn't ask for a dime in return.

    So don't go saying those without money can't be successful. And don't even think about trying to convince me that it's okay for big government to take my hard working money for a drug addicted fucked up welfare system of lazy pieces of shit
     
  3. 3RA1N1AC

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    i know a guy who has 3 kids with his GF, but she says he doesnt live there so "they have no income", she gets her 3 bedroom apartment for $120 a month. they always have a fat bag of weed and a big screen tv and new fancy phones and an xbox one and beer and all the junk food you can imagine. and she gets 10k a year in tax refunds with the child tax credit.

    i know another girl who has housing paid in full, 4 kids, her BF hurt his back and has a prescription for oxycontin. he doesnt do them, so he sells them for thousands of dollars a month, and they have 2 new cars, diamond watches, 20k in recording equipment, etc, etc. she gets 10k+ at tax time as well.

    this happens exactly like this a million times.

    there are also a million single moms working 3 minimum wage jobs with 2 kids, no frills, no cable tv, no smartphone, etc, and need food stamps and or housing to survive.

    not sure how to fix it, but, as they say, dont hate the player, hate the game
     
  4. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, what should be done with drug addicted fucked up lazy pieces of shit? Kill them? Let them starve to death or steal (assuming they aren't too lazy for that)? What's your solution?

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  5. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    In Communist countries, you are guaranteed a job. You get benefits only if truly handicapped.

    The Western welfare system is a bandage over unemployment. Except for the truly disabled, when there's no unemployment in a country, there's no welfare system.
     
  6. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Welfare would work if there are restrictions like random drug testing. If you fail, then you get your kids taken away from you and sent to a mandatory drug rehab.

    For those without jobs, have an active "mandatory" work temp service.

    There are answers that can have a finality. Train trees lazy bastards to stop being so fucking lazy. Ones that actually want to get out, can if they have help.

    I'm not for giving out free money are you?
     
  7. barfo

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    Wouldn't that drug rehab require big government taking your "hard working money"? And what are you going to do with the kids you take away that doesn't involve big government taking your hard working money? Put them to work in the mines?

    Wait, training? Training lazy bastards costs money. Big government, again.

    Sounds like you are for big government taking my hard working money. You communist.

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  8. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I don't mind giving up my money if its used wisely. Do you think our welfare system is sound? Do you even think its worth a shit how corrupt it is now?

    Yep, if Big Government is doing their "due diligence" and making a solution, then you won't ever hear me bitch about it.


    That wasn't an answer to the question. "I'm not for giving out free money are you?" Yes or no answer please.
     
  9. barfo

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    No. I will give out money, but not for free. I can make you a good deal on some US Dollars for only $1.20 each. Let me know how many you want.

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  10. Denny Crane

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    I'm for big government taking your money. Just yours, though.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Spoken like a true democrat. Artificially inflating the value of the money you got.
     
  12. MarAzul

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    Will Barton??? How the hell did he creep in to this?

    I imagine he would do well to get to keep some money too, especially while he earns some.
     
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    Actually taking a 120 and giving back 100 is pretty damn efficient for a democrat.
     
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    Exactly! Elect me!

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  15. Denny Crane

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    Obama will have taken in about $20T in govt. revenues in 8 years and will have spent $40T. Pretty darn close to those figures. It's not $1.20 for every $1.
     
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    http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2014/feb/04/nan-orrock/orrock-questions-drug-testing-plan/

    http://www.occupydemocrats.com/utah-welfare-drug-testing-results-show-12-positive-at-cost-of-over-30000/

     
  17. magnifier661

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    How many are on welfare? It's gotta be in the millions. 12 out of 400. How many out of a million would test positive? Also, what demographic they use? An antidotal study is hardly something to put weight on.

    Drive down the ghetto and you don't even need a study to see how many are on drugs
     
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    Drug testing is stupid. If the people need the money, give it to them and don't ask them how they spend it.

    When the unemployment runs out, they'll end up living with their parents anyhow. Thanks Obama!
     
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    The drug addicts take so much and have children to get more for their fix. I don't like giving these losers the ability to bring kids into that type of world.

    http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh291/63-67.htm
     
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    It's their rotten life. That's no reason to starve them to death.
     

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