Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP http://www.nba.com/features/player_rankings_061121.htmlInteresting, not nearly what I would've thought had it been last year.Nice to see Lamar Odom on there as well. :rock:
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP It's purely based on statistics...what garbage...Tim Duncan should be above Carlos Boozer easily...because Duncan is the much better defender.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP Deron Williams on the list over Chris Paul? Look at the talent level on Utan and then compare it to New Orleans. Without Chris Paul on their team, they would have nothing. If you replaced Utah with another fairly good point guard, their record would be very similar IMO. Also, why in the hell is Dirk on that list? His team has a shitload of talent and his team isnt in playoff contention at the moment. That is awful. Also, having Emeka on that list is crap as well. He is having a great year, but his team is one of the worst in the league. All their players are healthy, so they dont have any excuses. They have a decent amount of talent as well. Also, Baron Davis should be WAY higher. He should be in the top ten IMO. His team is playing great and he is the fuel behind the fire. Sure, his teammattes are playing very well like Monta Ellis, but he is still the leader of the team, and should get the most recognition for their success.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP Boozer is over Duncan. Deron is over CP3. Why are you guys complaining? Not only are these two guys putting up MONSTER numbers, but Utah is 10-1! BCB, Tim Duncan is the best big man in the NBA, we know that. But Boozer has been superb thus far and he's a huge reason Utah is so successful thus far.I have no problem with the Jazz players being ahead of some of the more elite players. They deserve it with the way they are playing, the numbers they are putting up, and the wins they are producing (the last 4, by the way, without their best player).
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 21 2006, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, why in the hell is Dirk on that list? His team has a shitload of talent and his team isnt in playoff contention at the moment. That is awful.</div>Dirk has been doing well out of the gates. In the first four games, no one else did anything. Do you not remember the game against Golden State when Jason Terry had like 1 point on 0-5 shooting? Since they've been winning, obviously everyone else has been playing better, but in that time Stack and JHo have been injured. Dirk being solid as always and Damp playing above expectations has gotten us the 6 game win streak. You know better than to talk about playoff contention now.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP I was just stating that if the playoffs started today, they wouldnt be in it. At least I dont think they would. I had no idea that they were on a 6 game winning streak either. Im not going to lie. But what I do know is that their team has a shitload of talent and they were underperforming like crazy in the first 6 or whatever games of the season. My point is, that if guys like Vince Carter arent going to be on that list then why should Dirk? Vince is arguably having a better year than he is...
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP WTF Allen Iverson isn't in the top 20 but Chris Bosh is? That's some bull sh*t righ there lol. The Raptors are 2-8 and have a shitload of talent. Plus I don't agree at all with Randolph being thrid. Sure h's been scoring liek a monster and grabbing rebounds like usual, but he's still doing nothing else and Portland isn't doing anythign either.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 21 2006, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My point is, that if guys like Vince Carter arent going to be on that list then why should Dirk? Vince is arguably having a better year than he is...</div>I guess, if you think leading in 3pt%, ppg, spg, and apg is having a better year. He's not leading in rebounds, FG%, FT%, or blocks. And the assists thing is misleading, because duh, it's the Mavs. Some people might also argue that Kidd makes Vince a player. I didn't write the list, but I wouldn't say Vince is having a noticeably better year, either.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP A lot of you are complaining about Boozer and Williams being so high, but winning will always get your best players in the MVP contention.especially if your team sucked one year than gets good the next. If you don't believe me look at the last two years MVP races, Nash got the first one because of how much Phoenix turned around, the second one was because how good Phoenix stayed. last year had the Laker had a winning record Kobe would have been MVP.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Nov 21 2006, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of you are complaining about Boozer and Williams being so high, but winning will always get your best players in the MVP contention.especially if your team sucked one year than gets good the next. If you don't believe me look at the last two years MVP races, Nash got the first one because of how much Phoenix turned around, the second one was because how good Phoenix stayed. last year had the Laker had a winning record Kobe would have been MVP.</div>Yeah and Chris paul is leading a les s talented team, and is making them win, while producing more than Williams also. There's no way Williamns should be ahead of Paul even if Utah has the best record in the league. Plus you guys were pretty much just as talented as last year just Boozer and AK have stayed healthy so far so it's not like it's some huge suprise you guys are off to a great start.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 21 2006, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was just stating that if the playoffs started today, they wouldnt be in it. At least I dont think they would. I had no idea that they were on a 6 game winning streak either. Im not going to lie. But what I do know is that their team has a shitload of talent and they were underperforming like crazy in the first 6 or whatever games of the season. My point is, that if guys like Vince Carter arent going to be on that list then why should Dirk? Vince is arguably having a better year than he is...</div>Hmm....Dirk or VC....I'll take Dirk.He wasn't the reason the Mavs started 0-4, his team wasn't helping him at all. Yeah the Mavs are loaded with talent, but Nobody in their right mind would have figured that the Mavs would come out firing on all cylinders after replacing half their team, and mostly all of their bench.On top of that, Dirk made a VERY stong case for MVP last season, and it took him 25 games to get as many double doubles as he has at this point after 10....Oh and they have 7 game win streak, and will are starting to shape into the team that everyone thought they would be, even without J Howard for the last few games.So yeah, he deserves to be on this list, since he is a top 5 NBA player anyways, and has been putting up the numbers so far this year to support that.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Nov 21 2006, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah and Chris paul is leading a les s talented team, and is making them win, while producing more than Williams also. There's no way Williamns should be ahead of Paul even if Utah has the best record in the league. Plus you guys were pretty much just as talented as last year just Boozer and AK have stayed healthy so far so it's not like it's some huge suprise you guys are off to a great start.</div>No this years team is A LOT better. no Devin Brown, No Milt Palacio, No Keith McCloud. I wouldn't say New Orleans is all that less talented, the Hornets do have a very good team.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Nov 21 2006, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF Allen Iverson isn't in the top 20 but Chris Bosh is? That's some bull sh*t righ there lol. The Raptors are 2-8 and have a shitload of talent. Plus I don't agree at all with Randolph being thrid. Sure h's been scoring liek a monster and grabbing rebounds like usual, but he's still doing nothing else and Portland isn't doing anythign either.</div> The Raptors have a shitload of talent? Are you kidding me? Outside of Bosh and TJ Ford nobody else really stands out this season.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 21 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boozer is over Duncan. Deron is over CP3. Why are you guys complaining? Not only are these two guys putting up MONSTER numbers, but Utah is 10-1! BCB, Tim Duncan is the best big man in the NBA, we know that. But Boozer has been superb thus far and he's a huge reason Utah is so successful thus far.I have no problem with the Jazz players being ahead of some of the more elite players. They deserve it with the way they are playing, the numbers they are putting up, and the wins they are producing (the last 4, by the way, without their best player).</div> I don't care how good the Utah Jazz are doing...There is no way in hell Carlos Boozer should be ahead in an MVP race.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP Can't go wrong with LeBron James. He is leading the Cavs to a good record with Hughes injured and with Ilgauskas playing like garbage.I don't see Boozer keeping these numbers steady for much longer, He does this every season. Starts out playing great, then he falls off.He averaged 22 points and 11 rebounds at this same time in 2004-2005.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Nov 22 2006, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can't go wrong with LeBron James. He is leading the Cavs to a good record with Hughes injured and with Ilgauskas playing like garbage.I don't see Boozer keeping these numbers steady for much longer, He does this every season. Starts out playing great, then he falls off.He averaged 22 points and 11 rebounds at this same time last season.</div> Wasn't Boozer on the disabled list at the start of last season?
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Nov 22 2006, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hmm....Dirk or VC....I'll take Dirk.He wasn't the reason the Mavs started 0-4, his team wasn't helping him at all. Yeah the Mavs are loaded with talent, but Nobody in their right mind would have figured that the Mavs would come out firing on all cylinders after replacing half their team, and mostly all of their bench.On top of that, Dirk made a VERY stong case for MVP last season, and it took him 25 games to get as many double doubles as he has at this point after 10....Oh and they have 7 game win streak, and will are starting to shape into the team that everyone thought they would be, even without J Howard for the last few games.So yeah, he deserves to be on this list, since he is a top 5 NBA player anyways, and has been putting up the numbers so far this year to support that.</div>Dude, you are also forgetting that Dirk is "5th" and VC isnt even on the top 20 and their numbers are pretty dang close. And the stats that Dirk are winning in, are stats that big men should win. Your excuse that his teammattes werent helping him at all is irrelevant. If you have a player of Dirk's status, then you shouldnt have to have THAT much help to win a ball game; none the less go 0-4 to start the season. Now that the Mavs are starting to play better, I dont have as much as a problem with him being on the list, but I think its kinda funny how VC isnt on there anywhere and he is having a VERY good year.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 22 2006, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wasn't Boozer on the disabled list at the start of last season?</div>Yes. I meant to say the 2004-2005 season. That's when he started out hot.
Re: NBA.com's Race to the MVP I can't stand Boozer. He will be out soon, give him a month or two to get an injury to sideline him for the rest of the season, like he always does. We shouldn't be debating about "if Boozer should be on the top of the MVP race" we should be betting on "how long it takes for Boozer to get a serious injury." I got $50 dollars on the middle of January.I agree with LeBron being high on the list, but I am not suprised either. He finished in like the top 5 last year and I was only expecting him to get better (he always does). I won't be suprised if he even wins it this year.I don't know if I agree with Randolph though, the Trail Blazers haven't even updated all their team site yet! Even the web designers don't care about the team. The Trail Blazers are 5-7 and they haven't beat anyone special really yet. They lost to the Mavs, Spurs, Cavaliers, Clippers, and Warriors. They did beat the Nets, Hornets, and Lakers, but you are bound to win sometime, they are playing the Nets tonight and I call a loss to the Nets this time. I don't see how Randolph is there, just because he is averging 25/10 doesn't mean he should be in the top running. Why is he there? Can some one explain this to me?
