Goodbye Central, Hello Pacific and Southwest

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    http://www.nba.com/features/peterson.htmlThe guy has a good point which I've subconsciously known. 3 years ago and probably up until last year, the Central was definitely the best division.As for my opinion:However, now it's the Pacific or Southwest.the Pacific's top 3 teams combined record is 20-9. The SW's is 23-9. Only one team in each is under .500, being the Suns, who are working out kinks and will catch fire soon enough, and the Grizzlies without Pau Gasol. These two divisions are, as I'd say, ripped. In fact, the number of teams under .500 in every other division is 4,2,3, and 3 going into tonight.Now we just have to speculate why there was a power change, despite DWade, Bron, Bosh, Redd and the like in the East.
     
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    IMO, the Central was never stronger than the Southwest. No way. For the past 2 and a half years I have thought of the Southwest as the best division in the NBA. You have arguably the two very best teams in the entire league (Dallas and San Antonio), a very good overall team in Houston (when healthy), and up-and-comming team in New Orleans (who is probably a playoff team now too), and when Pau Gasol is healthy Memphis is a tough team and they also have a few promising young players (Gay, Warrick, Lowry. Plus Jones is an energy boost).
     
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    Yeah, but NO was terrible in 03/04 and 04/05. The Central was overall better, but with only 1 great team as to SW's 2.
     
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    Yeah Southwest has been the best since Chris Paul has been in the league. New Orleans was always the knock on us, and now that they are a elite team, its easily Southwest. Right now the Griz are holding us down, but our best and franchise player is hurt, so its easily Southwest, and IMO always been.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Nov 21 2006, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah Southwest has been the best since Chris Paul has been in the league. New Orleans was always the knock on us, and now that they are a elite team, its easily Southwest. Right now the Griz are holding us down, but our best and franchise player is hurt, so its easily Southwest, and IMO always been.</div> :doh: :doh: I'm going by records, Pacific:1. Clippers2. Warriors/Lakers3. Kings4. SunsC'mon Austin.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Nov 21 2006, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:doh: :doh: I'm going by records, Pacific:1. Clippers2. Warriors/Lakers3. Kings4. SunsC'mon Austin.</div>By the end of the year, southwest will be the best. Ill bet on that. We have 4 contenders(if Houston is healthy) and a sabby playoff team in Memphis who only sucks cause of injury. Better than Pacific.
     
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    Lemee see:Phoenix: ContenderClippers: ContenderLakers: Playoff TeamKings: On the edgeWarriors: On the edge/playoff team.
     
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    Let ME see then:San Antonio: More of a championship contender than any Pacific team.Dallas: See SA^Houston: When healthy they are good enough to be a 5th seed.NO/Oklahoma City: Playoff team.Memphis: When healthy are on the edge/playoff team.
     
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    It's the Southwest, and it's even clearer now that the Mavs are playing the way they're supposed to be, now winners of 7 strait, and when Gasol comes back the Grizz will be just as tough as they normally are in the regular season.I don't know when the Central was the better division, not overall, and definately not even at top, even when Detroit pulled that one title in.I think Houston/Memphis/NOK, even in the last 2 years, could have won the Central, or at the very least, easily made the playoffs in the Eastern Conference.The Pacific is tough...but I think Utah is overachieving, the Suns won't be as good as hyped up, allthough they'll still win at least 50 games, and the Clipps/Lakers/Kings will probably make the playoffs, but won't be dangerous to any of the top 3 teams in the playoffs.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Nov 21 2006, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By the end of the year, southwest will be the best. Ill bet on that. We have 4 contenders(if Houston is healthy) and a sabby playoff team in Memphis who only sucks cause of injury. Better than Pacific.</div>The Hornets are not a contender, are you kidding?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Phoenix: ContenderClippers: ContenderLakers: Playoff TeamKings: On the edgeWarriors: On the edge/playoff team.</div>Why are the Lakers not being counted as a contender? I think they are. I don't think they will win it, but I think they are a contender.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think Houston/Memphis/NOK, even in the last 2 years, could have won the Central, or at the very least, easily made the playoffs in the Eastern Conference.</div>Are you unaware that Detroit won over 60 games last season? Are you telling me Houston (with the injuries they had last year), Memphis, or New Orleans would have topped 63-64 games? I think not.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Hornets are not a contender, are you kidding?</div>I said they were, the only team I said wasnt a contender is Memphis, cause we are so young and Gasol is hurt.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Nov 22 2006, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said they were, the only team I said wasnt a contender is Memphis, cause we are so young and Gasol is hurt.</div>I know you said the Hornets were a contender. I'm telling you NO WAY THEY ARE. The Hornets are nowhere near a championship contender, are you kidding me? Sure, they have a nice young team, and they will be a good team for a long time. But a contender? Hell no.
     
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    Funny how you keep mentioning that te Rockets woudl be good without injuries. That's a stupid comment because if they were any good, they'd know how to keep healthy and stay healthy. That's why they're bad, they don't have good trainers and habits.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 21 2006, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but NO was terrible in 03/04 and 04/05. The Central was overall better, but with only 1 great team as to SW's 2.</div>You do realize that the current division setup wasnt even around in 03/04, and that the Hornest made the playoffs that year, and that they were in the eastern conference<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know you said the Hornets were a contender. I'm telling you NO WAY THEY ARE. The Hornets are nowhere near a championship contender, are you kidding me? Sure, they have a nice young team, and they will be a good team for a long time. But a contender? Hell no.</div>Why couldnt they be, they are 8-3, and have only played 3 games at home this season. Not to mention David West has been out the past 3-4 gamesNot to mention that they have wins over Houston, Miami, and Detroit, all three that u would agree with to being contenders
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheOkie @ Nov 22 2006, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You do realize that the current division setup wasnt even around in 03/04, and that the Hornest made the playoffs that year, and that they were in the eastern conferenceWhy couldnt they be, they are 8-3, and have only played 3 games at home this season. Not to mention David West has been out the past 3-4 gamesNot to mention that they have wins over Houston, Miami, and Detroit, all three that u would agree with to being contenders</div>No, I don't think Houston, Miami, OR detroit are contenders. Why would you think I or anyone else would think they are? I don't care if the stupid Hornets are 8-3, the Suns went 62-20 2 years ago, did they win it? Just wait till your team doesn't get anywhere in the playoffs, then we'll talk.
     
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    DO you know what a contender is? Its someone who has a chance to win it all, you cant call someone a contender after the season is over. your saying that the suns had no chance to win the championship after going 62-20? So what your saying is that the Heat last year were the only contenders, being the only team with a chance to win the championship last year?
     
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    No, a contender are the top few favorite teams that have a 30 percent chance or so to win it. Suns, Mavs, Spurs are probably this years contenders.
     
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    Some of these posts from you guys... WOW.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Funny how you keep mentioning that te Rockets woudl be good without injuries. That's a stupid comment because if they were any good, they'd know how to keep healthy and stay healthy. That's why they're bad, they don't have good trainers and habits.</div>Right. Those damn trainers made T-Mac have back problems. They also made Bob Sura miss the entire season and Yao break his foot in a game. [​IMG] The best part of the quoted post by S2S is that he called someone elses post stupid, then wrote that.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why couldnt they be, they are 8-3, and have only played 3 games at home this season. Not to mention David West has been out the past 3-4 gamesNot to mention that they have wins over Houston, Miami, and Detroit, all three that u would agree with to being contenders</div>Okie, Charlotte beat San Antonio and Cleveland. Are they contenders now too? Orlando is 7-4, Dallas is 7-4 too, is Orlando going to the Eastern Conference Finals? Phoenix is 4-6, do they suck now? It's the first month of the season. Screw the records at this point. You can't possibly pay attention to the records through 10-11 games and call someone a contender, you have to be kidding me. I can't believe you honestly think the Hornets have a shot at the title this year. :HAHAHA: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No, I don't think Houston, Miami, OR detroit are contenders.</div> :HAHAHA: No comment.
     
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    Did u know that 47 % of statistics are made up on the spot?So the Suns werent contenders when they one 62 games, did they only have a 32% chance to win it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 22 2006, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, a contender are the top few favorite teams that have a 30 percent chance or so to win it. Suns, Mavs, Spurs are probably this years contenders.</div>No, a contender is a team that has a chance to win the championship. CONTENDING for a championship.S2S you have made 3 posts that make you look bad, just stop.
     

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