Yankees Fire Long...

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  1. Rick2583

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    Gregory Hines never tap danced that good. I mean seriously. And what the hell did his closing comments regarding Kelleher even mean?
     
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    Business is about continuous improvement, small changes to personnel tweaks to big reorgs. Yankee front office doesn't have to make changes specifically to achieve results on the field, but rather just alter the dynamics of the staff to alter trajectories. It will either work or it won't. But standing pat is the only sure guarantee that things wouldn't improve. Cashman is doing the right thing.
     
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    Tap danced?

    Love him or hate him - I thought Cashman was pretty much up front and spoke in plain old english regarding the Kelleher issue:

    Cashman made a point to say the infield’s early season defensive problems were not on Kelleher, who had also served as infield coach for the past six seasons.

    It seems Kelleher’s dismissal had little to do with his job performance, but was done instead to open a spot for at least one new coach. “As you change the dynamic of the staff, it has to come at the expense of some personnel,” Cashman said. “In this case, it’s Mick.”



    Now can we stop acting like a bunch of whiny little girls?
    Kellerher was a numbers casualty and wasn't retained- period !

    If you're worried whether or not THIS is going to be a difference maker....
    4 words come to mind---> L M A O
     
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    Apparently the concept of 'at will' employment is foreign to Rick.
     
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    Yanks let go of their batting and infield coach - okay...so, what do we have now?

    They seem to HAVE INDEED made it clear that they WERE NO LONGER satisfied with some of the hands on "coaching" and ARE sending a message.....and since when did shaking things up and tweaking the team//MGR/ coaching become a bad thing after a disappointing season?

    Next stop ---> MGR?


    Oh, I forgot...the consensus is Girardi HAS ALREADY done a good job "WITH WHAT HE HAD TO WORK WITH".


    hm lol
     
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    Yeah I'm sure that's it.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...the evidence I seek will be in 2015?...are you serious? The evidence is in something that has yet to happen?...what kind of logic is that?


    ...and no, no one is crying about his departure...how about Kelleher?...is his firing not questionable?...of course it is. And if it is, by extension, so is the firing of Long.

    ...it's an example of making scapegoats, plain and simple. I've asked 2-3 times but I've yet to receive a legit answer; ..."I'd like for an example of this move actually turning a team around."...???
     
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    you are giving way too much credit to upper mgmt, yes, this is a business, but they ain't no einsteins makin the decisions
     
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    Why don't you cut out the crap? The Yanks are entitled to dump a coach or two...or a manager if they believe it can bring a better climate/change/atmosphere/fresh approach/new voice <--- use whatever word you want to...
    It's no big thing....kinda refreshing to tell you the truth..
    Kevin Long gets dumped after a nice long comfortable run until he had to work with a lineup the past couple of years that wasn't quite as dynamic as those in the past and the production went into the toilet.
    End of story !
     
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    ...lol...thank you for once again proving my point. "Not quite as dynamic...as those in the past" ?...gee, ya think?...they were nowhere near close to being like line ups in the past. And who provides the roster?...Cashman.

    ...and yes, "It's no big thing"...and that's the point, because it's not nearly enough. How is firing Long and Kelleher while giving Cashman not only a free pass, but a new contract as well, going to make this team's future any brighter?
     
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    Its not.
     
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    Indeed, Business should always equate to Continuous Improvements. Yet I still don't see how Long or Kelleher's firing equates to anything less than the Kidz don't know that shit flows downhill from the top of the Ladder. To blame those at the bottom, is as dubious for not placing blame at the top......ie, I see no difference here than the Matt Millen Fiasco in Detroit; with the Lions. Millen never accepted blame, when he had some of the finest head coaches.

    But yes, Paradigm Shifts, Continuous Process Improvements, Systemic Improvements, Root Cause Analysis with Corrective Actions. Yet I still don't see how firing these 2 will help the Team in the Future. Long could not place himself in the lineup, no more than Donnie BB in Chavez Ravine. Coaches, can't do anymore for a batter than the batter want's to accept and correct. Was Long to blame for Jeter's lowest batting average year? Hell No....:smile:
     
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    So.....uh....the Steinboys should give lifetime contracts to their coaches and manager, then fire Cashman and then fire themselves. Yep, I can see the logic.
     
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    ...who the hell said anything like that?
     
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    Let me guess, you'll be going into work tomorrow with a hangover.
     
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    Geezus, it seems like all kidz in your Generation***
    blatantly CAN'T SEE SHIT, RIGHT UNDER YOUR ARROGANT NOSES.....!!!

    You blatantly continue to prove my points....! And your to ignorant to see as much....!

    Shit does flow downhill, and obviously your engulfed in it....Is the shit pile making you utterly a blind fool?

    You read into a thread what you want to, but don't see the truth of the matter....

    I'm not surprised at all, with your pompous peacock attitude....

    *** Generation S: approximately 70% of those <33 years, are Gen. S-SLACKERS, argue with matters you have no clue about. Slackers always looking for a handout, for others to do their work for them. Lazy punks, blind too....
    Put your hands back in your pockets, no one here is going to enlighten your ignorance on most matters.
     
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    You know 59, brides is incapable of providing a real & honest answer. He continuously reveals, ignorance, in this post and all others. Proving out your points over and over; like a flipping mynah bird singing the same ol' song endlessly. While attempting to shit on all others......who call his bluff.

    A Pompous ignorant Peacock, who puffs up his feathers, rather than answer any Q's....

    I guess one could say in this case, Ignorance is Not Bliss....!
     
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    um..seriously, so...uh....does this really mean team ownership/management, should give lifetime contracts to coaches and managers and then fire themselves?
     
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    I've met more than my share of ignorant people......but you punk, take the cake and choke on it......

    Every time you post, its the same old shit over and over, PROVING OUR POINT-ie, Pointing directly to the fact, if one shined a light in your ear, said light comes out the other....in elementary words: you can't comprehend with your narrow mind. The lights on, but nobody is home......Prove me wrong, I dare ya', but your incapable. Climb back in the crib you crawled out of.....
     
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    Your continued ignorance amazes me......no, wait a minute, I don't expect any logical/rationale out of children like yourself...! Want your pacifier back?
     

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