Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Marty Burns and I give you Michael Redd....Redd's scoring explosion wasn't a case of a player selfishly chasing glory either. He scored 42 of his points in the second half to rally the Bucks from a 21-point deficit. He nailed a clutch three-pointer with 6.9 seconds left to tie the game, before the Jazz won it on a Matt Harpring basket off a back-door play.Afterward, Utah coach Jerry Sloan said: "You know, I've seen Michael Jordan and those guys do that, but Michael Redd, he's just sensational. I'd say tonight is right up there at the top with any of them in that situation."Redd credits his rise this year to being more aggressive going to the hole. He says he's not settling for jumpers as much. He's attacking the basket.The only bright spot has been Redd's continued development into one of the NBA's premier scorers. Now in his seventh season, the Ohio State product has seen his scoring average increase each year, from 2.2 his rookie season (when he was stuck behind Ray Allen and appeared in just six games) to 25.4 last year. This year, Redd has taken his game to an even higher level, showing more aggressiveness and getting to the foul line with greater frequency."I think he's maturing as a scorer," Bucks GM Larry Harris says. "He's figured out how to get to the free throw line. He's figured out different ways to score. He's using his mid-range game, driving to the basket, knowing when to shoot three-pointers, recognizing double teams, knowing when to go right in and suck in the defense and be a distributor. He's just maturing as a player, figuring out defenses and how to attack."http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writ....nba/index.html A lot of people don't realize Michael Redd's all-around game.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Yeah, Redd's one. Here are some others:Sam Cassell - Dude is solid until the 4th, then he goes crazyCaron Butler - Part of a 3 headed monster, but doesn't get much love behind the 2 all-stars on his teamRashard Lewis - Still hidden behind his 6'6" teamateRichard Jefferson - Another part of a 3 headed monster, two of whom are famous for their fancy plays
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Other than Jefferson I wouldn't call any of those players silent assassins. Caron Butler is a pretty good player but come on now....
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 22 2006, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Other than Jefferson I wouldn't call any of those players silent assassins. Caron Butler is a pretty good player but come on now....</div>Really?Rashard Lewis is capable of hitting clutch threes, scoring 25 points, and drawing lots of fouls every night.Caron Butler is a defensive monster and has nice athletiscm that enables him to get to the rimSam Cassell wins, hits the clutch shot, leads his team ... you just don't relize it until he's on a different teamI think they're all clutch players, who can give you anything you need them to give
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really?Rashard Lewis is capable of hitting clutch threes, scoring 25 points, and drawing lots of fouls every night.Caron Butler is a defensive monster and has nice athletiscm that enables him to get to the rimSam Cassell wins, hits the clutch shot, leads his team ... you just don't relize it until he's on a different teamI think they're all clutch players, who can give you anything you need them to give</div> Sam Cassell isn't 'silent'...everyone in the league knows him very well...and Caron Butler is hardly a defensive monster...if he was he wouldn't be moving teams all the time...I'll give you Lewis.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Lewis and Redd are good. because while I know they're decent, they're underrated and I never pay attention to them.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 22 2006, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sam Cassell isn't 'silent'...everyone in the league knows him very well...and Caron Butler is hardly a defensive monster...if he was he wouldn't be moving teams all the time...I'll give you Lewis.</div>I'm not trying to create a crazy argument here, but...Sam Cassell is underappreciated, those of us on this forum know him, but the general NBA crowd does not know what he brings to the table. All they see si some 30 year old, goofy-looking shooterCaron Butler is a defensive monster. He's consistentley been in the top 15-20 leaders in spg over the last 5 or so years. He can get you a block per game. And he can rebound like crazy, one of the best pound-for-pound rebounders in the NBA. He has exxcellent athletiscm, reflexes, and timing that allow him to be a very good defender. Add on that he averages about 17 ppg, and you've got one of the best two-sided basketball players.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Boris Diaw. You barely notice him and then you see he has a triple double. It's crazy, it's almost like he pays off the statistitians
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Caron Butler a defensive monster? Are you joking? I don't know how much better he's gotten in Washington, but with the Lakers (just a year and a half ago) he was a complete matador. He was horrendous. Man to man he couldn't stay in front of his shadow, he had no idea what he was doing on team D. He might have gotten better since then, but his improvement would have to be amazing for him to be called a defensive monster right now.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Caron Butler is a defensive monster. He's consistentley been in the top 15-20 leaders in spg over the last 5 or so years. He can get you a block per game. And he can rebound like crazy, one of the best pound-for-pound rebounders in the NBA. He has exxcellent athletiscm, reflexes, and timing that allow him to be a very good defender. Add on that he averages about 17 ppg, and you've got one of the best two-sided basketball players.</div>Defensive monster? Then how did Bron drop 36/8/6 on 51% shooting against him last year in playoffs?He is a good help defender, and very solid as a man to man defender, but not a monster defender by any means. One of best pound for pound rebounders in league!?! Are you fu*king kidding me! He is 6'7'' and has had only 2 seasons (including all 10 days of this seasons) of over 6RPG. That is good at best. Players of similar size...Pierce, T-Mac, Marion, among others....all better rebounders.He's a good scorer, but definately not a first option type scorer as say RJ can be.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? How about somebody like Wally Szczerbiak? You never hear anything about him and he is averaging over 21 PPG. I know his team isnt doing to well right now, but he is still putting up decent scoring numbers and he never gets mentioned.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Raja Bell... dude's got 18 points before ya even realize it...
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 22 2006, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about somebody like Wally Szczerbiak? You never hear anything about him and he is averaging over 21 PPG. I know his team isnt doing to well right now, but he is still putting up decent scoring numbers and he never gets mentioned.</div>I don't think BCB means underrated necessarily when he says silent assasin. I think he means someone who can have a great game relatively quietly. Someone like Tim Duncan. It's been a relatively average game, they show Duncan's stats and he's got 30 and 12, and you're just like, "whoa, that came out of no where." But almost all "silent assasins" are underrated.I'd add Lamar Odom to the list. I can't tell you how many games he's had where Kobe has a big outburst and everyone's focus and attention goes to him, then you see the box score and Lamar had 20/10/8 (he's gotta have the record for most near triple doubles, he's only had a couple as a Laker, but he probably was a rebound or assist off about a dozen times last year).
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? I'd say Ray Allen. From an offensive stand point, he's up there with the top players in the league, but you don't hear his name like you hear the names of Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, and Allen Iverson. Alot of people talk about how Iverson has dominated the game for a 10 year period, well Ray has done the same. He has averaged 21+ points a game for 8 straight seasons now, and on pace to make it 9. But do you ever see his name being thrown around in the media? No. Just a little bit last year when he broke the three point record.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Nov 22 2006, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think BCB means underrated necessarily when he says silent assasin. I think he means someone who can have a great game relatively quietly. Someone like Tim Duncan. It's been a relatively average game, they show Duncan's stats and he's got 30 and 12, and you're just like, "whoa, that came out of no where." But almost all "silent assasins" are underrated.I'd add Lamar Odom to the list. I can't tell you how many games he's had where Kobe has a big outburst and everyone's focus and attention goes to him, then you see the box score and Lamar had 20/10/8 (he's gotta have the record for most near triple doubles, he's only had a couple as a Laker, but he probably was a rebound or assist off about a dozen times last year).</div>In that case I'd add Marion. You don't really think he's doing much out there except for a nice dunk and a block and then you go see that he has a 20-10 game with a few assists. He's not really a takeover, give me the ball, guy.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Nov 23 2006, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>someone who can have a great game relatively quietly.</div>I'll name a few off the top of the head:- Richard Jefferson (gets overshaddowed by Kidd and Carter)- Ryan Gomes (you think he did average, then the stat sheet says 15 points and 10 boards)- Brevin Knight (does a little bit of everything, just doesn't stand out)- Drew Good (see Ryan Gomes)The leagues biggest silent assassin, IMO:Shane Battier (does everything, hits open shots, defends 4 positions, rebounds, etc. Nobody ever thinks he does that well because of the stat sheet, when in reality he's arguably the best role player in the league)
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? Caron Butler is NOT a defensive monster, but he is definitely a solid man-to-man defender. He's very good on the glass, as well. It's just people dont realize how valuable he is to this Washington team.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 22 2006, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Caron Butler is a defensive monster. He's consistentley been in the top 15-20 leaders in spg over the last 5 or so years. He can get you a block per game. And he can rebound like crazy, one of the best pound-for-pound rebounders in the NBA. He has exxcellent athletiscm, reflexes, and timing that allow him to be a very good defender. Add on that he averages about 17 ppg, and you've got one of the best two-sided basketball players.</div> Do you just make this stuff up and look up stats on NBA.com? If Caron Butler was as good a player as you make him out to be, he wouldn't be playing on his 3rd team in 5 years. Yikes...Exellent athletism? He's a good athlete but nothing great at all.
Re: Who is the NBA's most silent assassin? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Nov 23 2006, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still think diaw easily takes this</div> Not so much this season... :no1:
