So there has been some contrversory with that all Current NBA team about whose better....I say Wade of courseTally-Wade: 1Kobe: 6
I am going to go with Kobe Bryant. Later down the road, Wade has a chance of being better than Kobe, but he isn't now.
Kobe Bryant is better than Dwyane Wade.Kobe is the superior defender, far more dominant scorer. Kobe's offensive arsenal is better. His jumpshot is also alot better. DWade is better at slashing, and passing the ball, but those things arent really substantial. And dont bring in Dwyane's leadership. Put him on the Laker's, and they dont even make the playoffs. Yeah, I said that.
Kobe Bryant. Superior defender, rebounder and scorer. Wade is better playmaker, but after that he is not clearly better in any area.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 23 2006, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>DWade is better at slashing, and passing the ball, but those things arent really substantial. And dont bring in Dwyane's leadership. Put him on the Laker's, and they dont even make the playoffs. Yeah, I said that.</div>How is slashing and being a better passer not substantial? And put Kobe on Heat last year in Finals and I bet they don't win a ring. Yeah, I said it. :shok:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 24 2006, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe Bryant. Superior defender, rebounder and scorer. Wade is better playmaker, but after that he is not clearly better in any area.How is slashing and being a better passer not substantial? And put Kobe on Heat last year in Finals and I bet they don't win a ring. Yeah, I said it. :shok:</div>No, you know that's false. The lakers wouldn't smell the playoffs with wade on the team. Wade hasn't shown he can single handedly keep his team in the playoffs. Nothing points to wade leading the lakers to the playoffs. What wade did in the finals is what kobe did on a regular basis during the regular season. Kobe averaged 40+ in 2 months during the nba.edit: Wade's turning 25 soon. If he doesn't improve his game when he loses his explosivness he will start sucking it up/.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 23 2006, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe Bryant. Superior defender, rebounder and scorer. Wade is better playmaker, but after that he is not clearly better in any area.</div>Agreed, but Kobehas been showing that he has some playmaking skills this year.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 23 2006, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe Bryant. Superior defender, rebounder and scorer. Wade is better playmaker, but after that he is not clearly better in any area.How is slashing and being a better passer not substantial? And put Kobe on Heat last year in Finals and I bet they don't win a ring. Yeah, I said it. :shok:</div>Yeah...whatever...Kobe and Shaq together with that good of a supporting cast... Championship=Automatic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mind Game @ Nov 23 2006, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and we all know how well Kobe and Shaw work together</div>Exactly, and I know that you are being sarcastic..but even with the 'bad blood' they would still dominate together. (see past seasons together)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Nov 24 2006, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Exactly, and I know that you are being sarcastic..but put chemistry aside and they are unstoppable.</div>yes but first you have to put chemistry aside which will only happen in someones dream
Kobe in a heat uniforn would only happen in someone's dreams. Dwyane Wade in a Laker uniform would be a nightmare unless Kobe was still on the team with him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 23 2006, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe Bryant. Superior defender, rebounder and scorer. Wade is better playmaker, but after that he is not clearly better in any area.How is slashing and being a better passer not substantial? And put Kobe on Heat last year in Finals and I bet they don't win a ring. Yeah, I said it. :shok:</div>Why not? Kobe has done it with Shaq how many times before? I mean sure, you can argue that Gary Payton tried it once before with the Kobe/Shaq duo. But Kobe was amazing in the playoffs (except for the last game in the Sun series where he basically quit with like 8mins left and sat on the bench with a towel on his head). Kobe completely suprised me with how he changed his play from that season, the Lakers were playing with heart and like a team and Kobe for the first time in awhile was leading the team nicely. I didn't see a hint of the ballhoging Kobe I hate. I think Kobe could have very well won it on the Heat that year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Nov 24 2006, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe in a heat uniforn would only happen in someone's dreams. Dwyane Wade in a Laker uniform would be a nightmare unless Kobe was still on the team with him.</div>I hope I never live to see that day :shok:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mind Game @ Nov 23 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hope I never live to see that day :shok:</div>They put chemistry aside in the past, just look at their championships...they were able to dominate the league even though they didn't really get along.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 23 2006, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How is slashing and being a better passer not substantial?</div>Passing may be but slashing isn't. Slashing is just a way of scoring, Kobe doesn't really need to attack the basket. He got 35 a game last season all from midrange to outside. And we all know he can get to the rim, he's just cut down on it because doing it all the time is unnecessary for a player of his caliber who needs to start taking care of his body.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Nov 23 2006, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, you know that's false. The lakers wouldn't smell the playoffs with wade on the team. Wade hasn't shown he can single handedly keep his team in the playoffs. Nothing points to wade leading the lakers to the playoffs. What wade did in the finals is what kobe did on a regular basis during the regular season. Kobe averaged 40+ in 2 months during the nba.edit: Wade's turning 25 soon. If he doesn't improve his game when he loses his explosivness he will start sucking it up/.</div>Aren't you the one who said Lakers are better off with Kobe as playmaker? Wade could do that very well, and can also score efficiently while putting up 27PPG.People said same things about Jordan, and guess what? He improved his jumper and still found ways to score 30PPG on great % without being freakishly athletic. Wade has improved his game a ton in every way since his rookie year, who knows where he'll be 4 years from now.drake:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why not? Kobe has done it with Shaq how many times before? I mean sure, you can argue that Gary Payton tried it once before with the Kobe/Shaq duo. But Kobe was amazing in the playoffs (except for the last game in the Sun series where he basically quit with like 8mins left and sat on the bench with a towel on his head). Kobe completely suprised me with how he changed his play from that season, the Lakers were playing with heart and like a team and Kobe for the first time in awhile was leading the team nicely. I didn't see a hint of the ballhoging Kobe I hate. I think Kobe could have very well won it on the Heat that year.</div>Kobe won with Shaq putting up over 30PPG in Finals. Last year Shaq was at 14PPG for the series agains the Mavs, and Heat were down 0-2 and 10pts with 5min to go in game 3. Wade ended up hitting a few GW's, passed for GW, made a game saving steal, and averaged 40PPG through next 4 games. I don't think Kobe could have better'd or replicated that performance.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Passing may be but slashing isn't. Slashing is just a way of scoring, Kobe doesn't really need to attack the basket. He got 35 a game last season all from midrange to outside. And we all know he can get to the rim, he's just cut down on it because doing it all the time is unnecessary for a player of his caliber who needs to start taking care of his body.</div>I never said jumpshooting wasn't substantial or that Kobe isn't a better scorer (he is by far the best score rin the league). But to say Wade's slashing ability doesn't mean anything or isn't substantial is stupid.
I said lakers were better off with kobe bryant start off as a playmaker and then move to the wing. Wade in the triangle can only play one position. That is why wade would lead us to the lotteryWade is shooting .311 from outside of the paint. Last season he was like 38% on jumpshots. Please.edit: Kobe is an awesome slasher. He is getting the calls this year and guess what is happening? Scoring more effeciently in the paint than wade. This is kobe bryant on a bum knee.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Nov 24 2006, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said lakers were better off with kobe bryant start off as a playmaker and then move to the wing. Wade in the triangle can only play one position. That is why wade would lead us to the lotteryWade is shooting .311 from outside of the paint. Last season he was like 38% on jumpshots. Please.</div>Wade can be playmaker and scorer when need be. He has proven that throughout his career.I don't know what this was referring to, but Bron was also 39% from outside of paint last year as well. AI probably isn't much better, either.PS- Wade is a better slasher. Despite Kobe having a bum knee, Wade is also extremely tired and slowed down a bit from over a year of nonstop action. He is also getting a lot of help scoring wise from teammates, while teams are totally collapsing on Wade as his teammates have been HORRIBLE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Nov 23 2006, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade can be playmaker and scorer when need be. He has proven that throughout his career.I don't know what this was referring to, but Bron was also 39% from outside of paint last year as well. AI probably isn't much better, either.</div>But this isn't about LeBron or AI...how well is Kobe shooting from outside the paint?
