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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I've had enough sense not to listen to you regarding apple
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I did read what he wrote. "Far out of the money" means the stock has to move big in price for those options to be profitable. Calls being options to buy the stock in the future at a price you set today. Far out of the money calls would be for a price "far" higher than today's price. Put options far out of the money require the stock price to fall far by the contract date to be profitable.

    Going long in a stock is buying it with the expectation the price will rise. Unlike options, there is no expiration date.

    Your analysis is both speculation and impulse oriented.

    If you invest all your money in Apple, you could lose it all. If you diversify using speculation and impulse, you may be up $350K in Apple, but down $500K in Solyndra and Enron.

    If you invest in mutual funds or other managed asset situations, you'll be letting grown ups invest in a bigger and more diverse basket of investments than you can do on your own. And they will be picking stocks on far more than impulse.
     
  3. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    You are 100% accurate about my reason to stay with Apple. It was very impulse oriented.

    Other than apple, I put my trust in my investment broker. I know I don't have too much business being in the markets on my own. I spread my investment money in %. 65% on mutual funds, 25% in stocks, the rest in Money Markets.

    My investment broker wanted me to sell my 1,000 shares during the last decline and I refused. I'm glad I did.
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You might want to use several investment brokers. Diversify.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Don't take barfo's advice. It's a loser for sure.
     
  6. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I did that long ago and I lost a lot of money. I found a guy that I trust. He's done well so far. I'm not against the diversifying of my brokers, I've just had a bad experience personally. Anyway, I'm in multiple mutual funds. That's almost like your concept anyway.
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Try out the additional brokers with smaller amounts of capital.
     
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    You can buy a leap or option dated several years in the future. That is considered "short term" by some people, but not you since you're on here talking about monthly price changes.

    Again...show me, specifically, where I said not to go long Apple stock.
     
  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My advice would be to do whatever Denny says.

    barfo
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    That would be my advice, which isn't your bad advice.
     
  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    As compared to what other approach?

    barfo
     
  12. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Instead of only paying capital gains if you hold stocks for over a year and sell
     
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    Pretty sure the tax rate for long term cap gains and qualified dividends is exactly the same.

    barfo
     
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    No they aren't. Dividend income is counted as income as one that owns a business pays each year. That could go as high as 40% if you live in a democratic world

    Capital gains is 15%.
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    QUALIFIED dividends are taxed even lower than long term capital gains.
     
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    Dude, didn't you see the gun thread? Mags isn't fucking around. You should just agree with him and back away slowly.
     
  17. magnifier661

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    Oh i stand corrected. Thanks bro! Although the qualified dividend at upper scale (39.5% ordinary income) is 20%, which is still higher than capital gains
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    I saw the gun thread and the video surveillance one... The thieves planning to steal the guns.
     
  19. Denny Crane

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    But you get to keep the stock and collect dividends. The asset appreciates, too.

    Barfo's kind are chasing companies offshore so it's getting harder to find qualified dividends.

    Smert '
     
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    I concede... You are correct, I was wrong
     

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