<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 24 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but bron said he wants to be 'the richest person in the world' not just a billionaire.</div>When did he even say that? I have to question your credibility on this one.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 24 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So he's going to be picking up every money making opportunity, and demanding too much money.</div>Who's to say that? When he said he wanted to become the first billionaire athlete it was a reference to all of his advertisements. That's the only place where he's solely looking for money.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 25 2006, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You were the first to mention him in this thread. Howard, Paul and Bron were the only mentions.</div>But you are too shallow to recognize WHY I mentioned Wade.- You singled out LeBron because he only signed a 3-year extension.- Wade only opted for a 3 year deal too.Conclusion: If you are going to bash LeBron for not being loyal to his organization or whatever you said, you have to do it to Wade too. He's a superstar, he did the same thing as LeBron.Also, back to you saying Wade is not a top franchise player: :HAHAHA:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 25 2006, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But you are too shallow to recognize WHY I mentioned Wade.- You singled out LeBron because he only signed a 3-year extension.- Wade only opted for a 3 year deal too.Conclusion: If you are going to bash LeBron for not being loyal to his organization or whatever you said, you have to do it to Wade too. He's a superstar, he did the same thing as LeBron.Also, back to you saying Wade is not a top franchise player: :HAHAHA:</div>Holy cow man you're missing the point This thread is about the best franchise player in the league, right? So when DWade wasn't even in the conversation until you randomly brought him up, why would I even talk about him. Just not talking about him is bashing him more than the 3 year thing. But since Bron's in the discussion we're talking about pros and cons of him, not Wade or Melo. Whatever you're trying to say about Wade is irrelevant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 25 2006, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Holy cow man you're missing the point This thread is about the best franchise player in the league, right? So when DWade wasn't even in the conversation until you randomly brought him up, why would I even talk about him. Just not talking about him is bashing him more than the 3 year thing. But since Bron's in the discussion we're talking about pros and cons of him, not Wade or Melo. Whatever you're trying to say about Wade is irrelevant.</div> How are their any 'cons' involving LeBron James? Honestly. He wants to get rich, big deal. He signed a big extension, sounds good to me. Works very hard to improve, thats great. Might be the best player in the game, wow sounds very nice to me. Whats wrong with him? LeBron has to do whats best for him and his career. The NBA is about making money, their is no loyalty in it. The Cavaliers don't have a solid team for the future, signing that shorter contract puts more pressure on the Cavaliers to put him in a better position to win....and it gives LeBron options if the franchise still doesn't improve. I see nothing wrong with it. I think 7 years of your career to a franchise is good enough...if they don't do what they need to do...well it's they're fault.
<span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">Definitely LeBron James. He turned his team around so much last season. Man... LeBron is one of those players who can secure a win and still entertain the crowd.</span>
Well one con is Bron's immaturity. And since he's only going to sign a few years at a time(you don't know when he'll leave) you don't have long to wait for him to mature and be a leader. I'm not going to take a 'franchise player' that won't even sign for a long term deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 25 2006, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well one con is Bron's immaturity. And since he's only going to sign a few years at a time(you don't know when he'll leave) you don't have long to wait for him to mature and be a leader. I'm not going to take a 'franchise player' that won't even sign for a long term deal.</div>Yep... both LeBron and Dwyane Wade (and maybe Bosh, I don't remember) signed a shorter extension so they could become free agents and receive a bigger deal later on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 25 2006, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well one con is Bron's immaturity. And since he's only going to sign a few years at a time(you don't know when he'll leave) you don't have long to wait for him to mature and be a leader. I'm not going to take a 'franchise player' that won't even sign for a long term deal.</div>LeBron has shown he is a leader. He is very mature for his age and where he is in the league. The only thing the Cavaliers need to wait for him to improve on is his clutchness and defense. He is gradually improving in every other area. I mean, he is already getting 30/7/7 just about any night he wants too, what else do you need to wait on? He is not a selfish player. He is a great passer and any time a player is open, he feeds them the ball. So immaturity how? I mean, I understand where you might think of some things as immature, like walking off the court, and I am not saying that was okay. But he is very competitive, and he made a mistake. He isn't selfish with the ball. The only immaturity he has right now is natural because of how young he is and how short a time he has been in the league, but other than that he has shown maturity beyond his years.
Remember that realgm poll that showed more people would build a team around Bosh than Wade? lolIMO, Lebron, hes a kobe, just get him a good 2nd scorer and uve got a championship team
Well I'd say Bron's little clapping his hands with powder during last years playoffs was rather immature. Specially since they got pwned.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 23 2006, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If I am trying to win now - Steve NashIf I am trying to win in the future - Lebron James</div>Agreed
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 26 2006, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I'd say Bron's little clapping his hands with powder during last years playoffs was rather immature. Specially since they got pwned.</div>I guess Reggie Miller and Kevin Garnett are also immature, seeing as how both are/were well known for doing that same thing before games.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 23 2006, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If I am trying to win now - Steve Nash</div>Care to elaborate? I can name 5 guys that would be better options if you wanted to win now.Tim DuncanKobe BryantLebron JamesDwyane WadeDirk Nowitzki
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Nov 27 2006, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess Reggie Miller and Kevin Garnett are also immature, seeing as how both are/were well known for doing that same thing before games.Care to elaborate? I can name 5 guys that would be better options if you wanted to win now.Tim DuncanKobe BryantLebron JamesDwyane WadeDirk Nowitzki</div>To answer for him, I would say that what Nash did without Amare last year in taking them as far as he did is pretty special and isn't something many franchise players could do.ExamplesYou take Parker away from San Antonio, there no better than a 6th seed. Duncan being their franchise player.You take Josh Howard away from the Mavs and Dirk being their franchise player, there in the same boat as San Antonio.Almost every other team in the west would go down the shitter.Get what I mean?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 27 2006, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I'd say Bron's little clapping his hands with powder during last years playoffs was rather immature. Specially since they got pwned.</div>So LeBron clapped his hands with powder (he smacks his hands with powder and does something like that before every game) and now you don't want him on your team. I mean, you can have your own opinion, I just don't really understand why you don't want him. The Cavs did not get "pwned" by the Pistons, if anything, the Cavs won it in a way. The Pistons were supposed to roll over the Cavs and the Cavs pushed the series to a game 7 (they should have won it in game six but blew it), losing in a game 7 to a team that should have destroyed you is getting "pwned"?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KWebb5 @ Nov 27 2006, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To answer for him, I would say that what Nash did without Amare last year in taking them as far as he did is pretty special and isn't something many franchise players could do.ExamplesYou take Parker away from San Antonio, there no better than a 6th seed. Duncan being their franchise player.You take Josh Howard away from the Mavs and Dirk being their franchise player, there in the same boat as San Antonio.Almost every other team in the west would go down the shitter.Get what I mean?</div>Not to take anything away from last years MVP, but he had a much better supporting cast then the other examples of Duncan and Dirk, and Shawn Marion is a star player as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistonfan11 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not to take anything away from last years MVP, but he had a much better supporting cast then the other examples of Duncan and Dirk, and Shawn Marion is a star player as well.</div>Steve Nash did not have a better supporting cast than Dirk Nowitzki did. The Mavericks were deeper, and better than the Suns were last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistonfan11 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not to take anything away from last years MVP, but he had a much better supporting cast then the other examples of Duncan and Dirk, and Shawn Marion is a star player as well.</div>Even if that were true, don't you think they would have been a better team than Dallas?
