OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national anthem

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant


    you're confused about the issue then. It's not about liking the country. I doubt Dion Waiters dislikes the country, it's about a religious belief that says you're not supposed to do something (see: Jehovah's). Not standing for the NA doesn't mean you dislike the country. Otherwise, a LOT of fans who are milling about on the concourse during the singing/presentation of the NA, dislike the country. And the cameramen and women who film the singers, move about and aren't standing at attention, dislike the country.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Lmao you thought it was "here here". I corrected your lack of knowing the english language
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    If I was a Muslim I would hate america, doesn't really matter though. He's gonna keep cashing those checks.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    That's cool. He should get hard foul after hard foul for his entire career.

    As for "his religious practices". He worships being idolized, playing a game that takes attention from Allah. He should just say "I will leave the NBA because it's against my religion"
     
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  5. julius

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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    you really should educate yourself on this, because the more you talk the more ignorant you sound.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Oh thanks for the compliment! #fistpoundfordemocrats
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Of course we have freedoms, but you seem to be missing the bigger picture. It's unseemly for an athlete who is making millions in our country to object to even standing for our national anthem. Jabbar, Alajuwon, and other Muslim players always stood for the anthem, which celebrates our hard-fought battle to gain independence and create the very kind of society that Dion Waiters is enormously profiting from.
     
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  8. julius

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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    I'm sorry that you seem to think the 1st amendment is a hashtag.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    I'm sorry that you are sorry.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    They should just pay him in blankets and goats and see how he feels.
     
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  11. julius

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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    and has the right not to stand/be present if that's what he believes.

    I may not agree with him, but it's entirely his right to not be present during the anthem. It doesn't mean he doesn't respect those who served, or respect the country, or not believe in the values of country.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Well let's remind him by giving him hard fouls for the rest of his career. The battles he will remember!
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Yeah, let's endorse violence to reinforce our beliefs, that's worked so well in the past.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    It did. Our country was liberated with violence so he can refuse to stand for the national anthem!

    America FUCK YEAH!
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    All I would like to hear is some elaboration on the connection in his mind between Islam and the national anthem. It seems premature to judge him without that.
     
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  16. julius

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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Someone not being present for the national anthem is not the same as fighting the British to gain independence.

    I know that you're mostly putting on a character about this, because you wouldn't have the balls to say it to his face alone, but still, the mindset is a troubling.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    I agree with this. Many religions including judaism don't permit swearing an oath to anyone but their god, but not peacefully standing in silence during the anthem is just disrespectful. It's not a debate, it's a basketball game.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    I get what Julius is talking about and agree with him. He can do what he wants. I just love the drama and the distraction. Lebron is trying to get the team focused on good team basketball and Waiters seemed to go out of his way to gain attention after he lost his starting position. I love it! The Blazers played a small part in causing the Cavs some early season turmoil and I love that too.

    Waiters making this announcement doesn't change how I feel about the guy because I've never cared for him. I'm just enjoying the drama.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    Actually I would. You haven't seen me in games. I have no problem telling people to their face about what I feel. I've done it before.
     
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    Re: OT - Dion Waiters informs Cavs that he is a Muslim and plans to skip national ant

    imho, it doesn't matter what the connection it. Being present for the NA is not required. It is not a crime to excuse yourself from the area when the anthem begins, just as it is not a crime to remain silent with your arms at your side during the national anthem.

    It's that whole pesky freedom of speech thing. You know, having the right to think different than others and not be forced to leave the country.

    btw, I know that you were asking for clarification, I'm agreeing with the point you made just adding to it.
     
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