OT: Ferguson

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  1. yankeesince59

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    Same here, not a big fan of his. Someone sent me that link in an email...and he did make some very valid points.
     
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    Just curious, for those who aren't "big fans" of O'Reilly--- why aren't you "big fans"?..And if not O'Reilly, who amoung the various show hosts and commentators are more "worthy"? lol
    This rant of his shouldn't be a big surprise, these are merely some of the things which should/need to be said more often by other talking heads in the media - they are just cowards....
    ...he (O'Reilly), has done his part in helping to shed light and give more publicity towards serious social issues.

    Actually, he pulled his punches just enough to try and avoid creating any further animosity or anger.
    He could've also mentioned other horrible crime stats which are affecting people/women and cops who aren't from the african american "communities".

    These statistics are real numbers - they are not conjured up by racists or trouble makers.

    AND OF COURSE - we still realize this is a great big country and crimes ARE committed by all "types" of people.

    But don't be so surprised over this particular "rant" by a cable-news talking head....if anything, it proves there is at least one high profile media person who isn't afraid to say what needs to be said at the appropriate time.
     
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    ...^^^ without getting into a big debate, let's just say I have my reasons. For one, I think he wimped out on Obama. And his views are sometimes skewed by the network.

    ...I don't dislike him, I just don't always agree with him.
     
  6. totus44

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    Perfectly stated. He refused to take the "kill shot" on obummer, he's still pandering for access with this regime. Agreed, fox has their talking points from show to show, that said it obvious when bill buys in and when he doesn't. Fiscally, he's naive on how the global economy works.

    I'll watch fox, but only in moderation and a finger on mute. Rush is still my morning entertainment, he's much more approachable since: (1) this new wife, (2) he's got both ear implants working and (3) most significantly, the Rush Revere book series.

    Intellectually, Hugh Hewitt gets a legal/policty angle....links into the Free Beacon well. National Review and Weekly Standard still have some good pieces as does WSJ. But my favorite has to be Mark Steyn.

    But then again, to me we are living the Walking Dead and progressives and liberals are the zombies.
     
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    ...yup, I watch/read many news outlets because I like to get multiple points of view. And for that reason, I don't arbitrarily aligned myself with the libs/conservs or dems/reps.
     
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    I hear yah. I didn't start picking sides until March 2000 when Clinton and Tony Blair declared the human genome "open access" . They misspoke/ misunderstood the concept and single handedly burst the biotech bubble by a couple of trillion dollars. It took close to a decade for the supreme court to finally resolve the ambiguity Clinton/Blair started. After 100s of companies died and 10s of thousands of scientists and engineers lost jobs it became painfully clear...words matter but intentions matter even more.

    It hadn't been misspoken understanding, there was an underlying agenda, one designed to undermine the US superiority in biological sciences. And 15 years later it has completely transformed science, research.

    For all the talk about ISIS, etc., there is a far more dangerous entity within the US. They use things like Ferguson, Newtown, etc. to attack the foundation of this country.
     
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    I don't doubt a word you said. But- you forgot to say Rush is better off these days, than His Oxycontin Days.....Hmm, its ok to continue to forgive an addict to synthetic heroin? Kind'a like giving Braun a standing Ovation in Milwaukee on Opening Day.....

    I too prefer a road somewhere in between extremes.....

    How much longer before the next Civil War, a race related War. An Urban War(s); already being fought on numerous city streets, both metropolis' and smaller towns. Any cop will agree.

    Then after the race wars, comes the Information Revolution, against the govt...? Not saying, rather asking...!
     
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    I don't doubt a word you said. But- you forgot to say Rush is better off these days, than His Oxycontin Days.....Hmm, its ok to continue to forgive an addict to synthetic heroin? Kind'a like giving Braun a standing Ovation in Milwaukee on Opening Day.....just saying, its an open shot, and I'm taking it.

    I too prefer a road somewhere in between extremes.....

    How much longer before the next Civil War, a race related War. An Urban War(s); already being fought on numerous city streets, both metropolis' and smaller towns. Any cop will agree.

    Then after the race wars, comes the Information Revolution, against the Capitalist Mongers, who thrive on the blood, from the salt of the Earth, or as much; this crooked Govt Regime. For not protecting the masses, from corruption, with this present Information For Sale B.S...? Not saying, rather asking...!
     
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    Right because apparently no one else ever got addicted to oxy....nice libtard talking point Rob. At least he owned his shit and did play the blame game. That's a pretty sensitive topic because I had a close friend that had been prescribed oxy after a back surgery. Shit almost killed him, after Rush's mea culpa, he was able to own his addiction and get help. It took way too long for the FDA to act on that drug. To insinuate drug addiction to PEDs, wow....dude, let go of your rush hate and hit the edit button.
     
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    Honestly Tom, I have no Rush Hate, Hell I have most of his books, before and after Oxy days. You see, its a touchy point here too, and I'm not trying to put Rush or any pain pill addict down. You see after my own Back Surgery in 04, that made me an OxyIR and OxyContin, Soma, Diazepam, and onto Dilaudid addict as well. Unfortunately treatment for the rich is much different from the working class.

    I did my time in Re-Hab on my own cognizance, and requests. One major factor of addicts, those who are forced to rehab rarely if ever succeed, in their endeavors. To often takes a violent circumstance to come clean.

    I'm not taking a libtard stance, neither so much as I'm busting your balls, to see what kinda' answer you come up with....However love Him or Not, Rush did the right thing, tho' being addicted to Oxy is one's choices as much as the fkhead Dr. for over prescribing. Like you said, it took the FDA way too damn long to get their hands into the RX Heroin Boom(s)......

    Anyone who is prescribed these types and quantities of Narcotics, are but a day away from death at the best...! Maybe one dose away...! :smile:
     
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    Mr. Rush no taxes, small govt, pull your self up by the boots straps Limbaugh

    I can appreciate how he points out the hypocrisy and double standard coming from the "left"...I don't appreciate how NEVER volunteers one little peep when the "right" is (or was), obviously on the wrong side of history or a current issue.
    He's a smart guy no doubt, - but I just find it offensive to my intelligence how he chooses to be a constant one-trick pony.
    He can do "better" than that. No, I'm not talking about his income....lol

    I also choose to get my info/opinions from various outlets.
    We might've been down this road before regarding News Networks...and I don't expect everyone to agree with me but as I said, I do watch and read news from various areas- and FOX (cable) News' programs/hosts still have more panelists, guests and interviews with people of differing opinions than any of the other "major" Cable News Network....by a wide margin.

    The hosts/programs on MSNBC are a total one way street and CNN is boringly biased on hot button issues.

    There's a good reason why FOX has better ratings/more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined....
    they constantly ALLOW MORE DIFFERING OPINIONS to be heard than those other two networks and they do it in a more entertaining outgoing manner. T

    I found that out....I guess anyone with a remote control can flip back and forth during a hot button issue or crisis and see for themselves. It's kinda, obvious...lol
     
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    CNN and MSNBC, made total fkng fools out of themselves with this Fergy B.S. Especially by allowing thugs who were latter (only 2 weeks later) proven to of not even of been actual eyewitnesses with records of their own. The 1 jackass, If I am not mistaken, had numerous Felonies against him, & I thought I heard something about that punk getting his justice for his lying remarks.

    In the end I gotta' blame CNN for allowing just about anyone to speak on the open Mic, without checking them out first, Total mockery or ship of fools....
     
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    Wait, I thought CNN was still out looking for the Malyasian airliner?
     
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    Its no secret that Rush holds the establishment Republicans with nearly the same contempt as Democrats. The difference is that conservatives can still influence from the right....if the GOP is in power. Rush understands the left without going all Hannity or Beck crazy. Although the latest version of Beck, the love is the answer libertarian....I not buying this schtick. Beck is to talk radio/TV what BSS was to the RSPN board. Oh and the Obama regime....that was Grace Cloud.
     
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    ...spit out my coffee when I read that. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
     
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    Mission accomplished!
     
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    What you said Hannity Crazy, or Beck, and you have the nerve to tell me "that libtard talk" Touche Tote, you fell on your own sword..... next time use a Boy Scout Knife they don't cut clean thru......:smile:
     
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    No such thing Rob. You spouted specific lib talk points to denegrate Rush, not based on policy or position....but rather a personal attack. And I called it what it was. He specifically doesn't gin up a fear base like Hannity or Beck have. I get why they do it...they don't have Rush's audience. And while their fears may have grounds, its not an effective model to win independents. Its too extreme as the folks have been neutered effectively the past 30 years to be non confrontational.

    You're welcome to disagree with Rush and I'm happy to debate it, just give me a specific policy point and we can go from there. All too often I find that Rush haters actually don't understand where he stands and they are too busy spouting media matter talking points. But then, those would be bonafide libtards.
     

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