Greg Anthony says Lillard's the best

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Something tells me you forgot the green font. Nash's career high was 22 assists in a game, he did it one time. So, 24 apg never happened, not even close. His career high for a season was 11.6 apg.

    I thought you may have been confusing Nash and Stockton. Stockton racked up a lot more assists than Nash. His career best was 14.5 apg. He did have multiple 24+ assist games over the course of his 19-year NBA career, but even the great John Stockton ever had more than one 24+ assist game in any single season.

    Magic Johnson is the only player to record two 24+ assist games in a single season. He had two games of exactly 24 assists during the 1990-91 season.

    There have only been 12 - 24+ assist games in the history of the NBA - as noted, none of them by Steve Nash.

    Yeah so, Dame averaging 24 apg would be cool, but it would also be cool if he averaged 64 ppg and the team went 82-0, but those things aren't happening either. Lillard's good, but he's not that good.

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  3. magnifier661

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    It's weird because Anthony was talking about the current NBA and they bring up past NBA players. Well if that's the case, I can name Magic, Stockton, and Oscar as easily better than Nash.
     
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    I knew we should have drafted Nash instead of Lillard but you guys disagreed with me.
     
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    If we are going back that far, then we may as well go all the way. Bob Cousy, baby! He was a pg leading his team to 6 championships.
     
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    I think you're missing my point. Comparing Nash's peak to Lillard now is just as bad as comparing Lillard now to Nash's first three years. It doesn't say anything about either player's rank as best PG of their time.
     
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    So you agree that Lillard is the best PG in the league right now?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm not sure who Dame reminds me of the most (Porter, but better I guess?) but it doesn't fucking matter. He's a helluva player and outside of "The Brow" who went 1st overall in that draft, he's clearly the second best player and Neil managed to get him at six.
     
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    I'm comparing 1st three years to 1st three years. What years should I use to get an accurate comparison of each player's 1st 3 years in the NBA?
     
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    I think PG wise, it's still Chris Paul, but it's closer than it used to be.
     
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    Cherry pick stats like everyone else. Duh! :devilwink:
     
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    So top 2?
     
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    To me, Lillard is a cross between Isiah and Iverson.
     
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    Wow that's actually a really good comparison
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I sort of see what you're saying, but those guys were both 30% three point shooters for their career
     
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    I don't think Marazul was comparing Nashs first three years in the league to Damians. He was comparing his peak years, which was my point.

    Comparing different players years, which were under different circumstances (Nash wasn't starting the first two years, iirc).
     
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    Then maybe Sly could have added "that's how those players match up their first 3 years, but we all know Lillard hasn't hit his prime"

    So using someone's prime years from someone's rookie contract years is absurd
     
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    And, like I've already asked you, do you think Lillard has peaked? I don't, so I don't think it's accurate to compare Nash's peak years to Lillard's first 3 years. All that's left for the most accurate result is to compare first 3 years in the league.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Somebody help me out. What website is it that lets you plug in a player and get their closest comp? I thought it might have been basketball-reference.com, but I'm not having any luck.
     
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    We should have drafted Magic Johnson instead of Lillard.

    Damn you Neil Olshey and Paul Allen for your lack of time machine and your ability to make bold moves in the draft.
     
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