Chris Paul with a Triple Double, Hornets fall to Bulls

Chris Paul is such an amazing basketball player. I love watching him (except for the night the Celtics played him and he slaughtered us off of the high pick about four or five posessions in a row). He really knows the game well, got great instincts, Kidd-like if you will, on the boards, knows how to dish it AND score. It's extremely rare to find a player like him at the PG position because usually they're all to small so they just forget about rebounding. Its guys like Kidd and Paul that make me love basketball so much. Both guys scrap for boards, sneak under big guys, grab the long ones, anything and everything they could do to keep the other team from getting the ball they do. The league needs more guys like them right now. These two are the top two all around PGs right now. Nash is great but he has nothing like these two do rebounding. Like was said before its possible that he was even a product of the systems, and I would have to see how much better/worse he would do in different systems before determining where he would go. But right now in my eyes, Kidd and Paul are 1-2.Paul kills teams because he can score in so many ways and find so many open people, so its so hard to defend him because you have no idea what the hell hes going to do.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He averged 16/7 when he started Dallas, and scoring that and having 7 assists is good but not that incredable. You didn't watch that 20 game stretch so who knows how big of an impact Nash had, there might have been other factors as well...</div>Where were those 'other' factors all season? Steve Nash averaged 9 and 5 his first season with Dallas, not 16 and 7. You keep looking at numbers...

 

Hold on guys. Chris Paul is an amazing player, that triple double is impressive, but now way is he better than Chauncey Billups yet. Billups is a great leader, defender, three point shooter, and he's one of the smartest in the game. Give Chris Paul a year or two before he passes up Billups.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 2 2006, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is amazing...who would have thought on draft night that this kid could be the NBA's best point guard in his second season. It's great when guys put it all together in one game. :dribble:</div>Are you joking me?Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd, hey, maybe even Baron Davis (he's had a great year so far)But Paul is an amazing pg. Outstanding court vision, his mid range is alright, he has quickness, he can take it in, good at other things like rebounding, and playing defense also. Chris Paul will be the best pg in the NBA once Steve Nash, Billups, and Jason Kidd get too old..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Dec 2 2006, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Where were those 'other' factors all season? Steve Nash averaged 9 and 5 his first season with Dallas, not 16 and 7. You keep looking at numbers...</div> I said he averaged 16/7 when he started in Dallas...meaning all 4 years together....I don't know why Dallas went 17-5 late that year....Could have been Nash...could have been him and other reasons, who knows. Pulling a portion of a record from 5 years ago as an example of his impact when none of us watched it to me isn't concrete enough.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 2 2006, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you joking me?Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd, hey, maybe even Baron Davis (he's had a great year so far)But Paul is an amazing pg. Outstanding court vision, his mid range is alright, he has quickness, he can take it in, good at other things like rebounding, and playing defense also. Chris Paul will be the best pg in the NBA once Steve Nash, Billups, and Jason Kidd get too old..</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is amazing...who would have thought on draft night that this kid could be the NBA's best point guard in his second season. It's great when guys put it all together in one game.</div> Apparently some people can't seem to fully read posts here...I said 'could'...not 'is'....I don't think Chris Paul is as far off as some of you are making him. Just like with the LeBron James' and the Dwyane Wade's it's only a matter of time before we start putting Paul above some of the leagues best.

 

You forgot to bold the "second season" part.So it read like this: "this kid could be the NBA's best point guard in his second season":happy0144:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 2 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You forgot to bold the "second season" part.So it read like this: "this kid could be the NBA's best point guard in his second season":happy0144:</div> Whats your point? He's an elite point and is playing just as good as any point guard in the NBA right now.

 

My point is that he is not the best pg in the league, and he wont be at all in this season..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 2 2006, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My point is that he is not the best pg in the league, and he wont be at all in this season..</div> I'm saying he 'could' be. He's that talented. I'm not saying he's the absolute best either, but he's right up there and playing great.

 

BCB is right. Paul has the potential to be the best point guard this year. He never said it was a surefire statement.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Dec 2 2006, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>BCB is right. Paul has the potential to be the best point guard this year. He never said it was a surefire statement.</div> Thank you. Reputation point for you.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 2 2006, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm saying he 'could' be. He's that talented. I'm not saying he's the absolute best either, but he's right up there and playing great.</div>He's talented, but he wont be the best pg this year. Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups, and Jason Kidd are clearly better at this point..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 2 2006, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said 'could'...I'd love to see what Chris Paul could do in that offensive system, Nash was not an elite point guard until he was 31 and in that system which makes me wonder.</div>It really bugs me when people say this, because Nash did not completely blow up when he got to the Suns, and it's not that system that is what makes him so great. Nash is what makes that system great, his ability to play in both the half court, and the open court is amazing. Chris Paul is a good point guard, and would probably do decently well in the system that Nash plays in. There is no way he would run that system nearly as well as Steve Nash runs that offensive system though. No one in this entire league would run that offense anywhere near as well as Steve Nash runs this system.The only reason he got big, is because he went to that team, and they suddenly starting winning. Stat wise, he did not blow up that much in his first two seasons with the Suns. Particularly in the scoring department.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Dec 2 2006, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It really bugs me when people say this, because Nash did not completely blow up when he got to the Suns, and it's not that system that is what makes him so great. Nash is what makes that system great, his ability to play in both the half court, and the open court is amazing. Chris Paul is a good point guard, and would probably do decently well in the system that Nash plays in. There is no way he would run that system nearly as well as Steve Nash runs that offensive system though. No one in this entire league would run that offense anywhere near as well as Steve Nash runs this system.The only reason he got big, is because he went to that team, and they suddenly starting winning. Stat wise, he did not blow up that much in his first two seasons with the Suns. Particularly in the scoring department.</div>In any case, a players actual "play" is affected by any of the various reasons:1. He got better by himself2. Coach helped build him3. The System in which they are comfortable in.In this case, I think it was all three. Mike D'Antoni anaylzed the situation in Phoenix,and figured Nash would be better this way, and built on that. Nash obviously gained more confidence, and started to train more and eventually "blew up". Then his teammates, responded to Nash's play, and began feeding off him, and therefore liked the system and continued to play exceptional. Its a ripple effect, for every action theres an equal and opposite reaction, no way did Nash build himself, and no way did the Phoenix Suns build Nash up by themselves.

 

Chris Paul is going to be one of the best point guards to play the game. Especially if he keeps up his terrific play. Just simply amazing.

 

At this point Kidd is better than Paul. Paul has yet to pass him, but it will happen soon.Right now here are MY point guard ratings1) Nash2) Kidd3) Paul4) Baron Davis (when healthy)5) Deron Williams (hasn't been long enough to pass Baron)

 

rofl, replace baron with billups. Baron Davis is terrible.And I'd rather have a PG that does Kidd/Nash stats than one with 25-5 every night.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 2 2006, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rofl, replace baron with billups. Baron Davis is terrible.And I'd rather have a PG that does Kidd/Nash stats than one with 25-5 every night.</div>Wow, do you know anything about the NBA? Baron Davis averages 22 ppg and 8 apg, and you say he's terrible? Stop making dumb posts.

 

I dont know how he gets 8 assists. He's a selfish player and takes ugly shots. Watch him play.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Dec 2 2006, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It really bugs me when people say this, because Nash did not completely blow up when he got to the Suns, and it's not that system that is what makes him so great. Nash is what makes that system great, his ability to play in both the half court, and the open court is amazing. Chris Paul is a good point guard, and would probably do decently well in the system that Nash plays in. There is no way he would run that system nearly as well as Steve Nash runs that offensive system though. No one in this entire league would run that offense anywhere near as well as Steve Nash runs this system.The only reason he got big, is because he went to that team, and they suddenly starting winning. Stat wise, he did not blow up that much in his first two seasons with the Suns. Particularly in the scoring department.</div> Nobody else could run the system as well because their just aren't that many great point guards in the league right now. I think Chris Paul would do just fine in that offense, probably not as well as Nash because Paul younger and less experienced, etc...I don't think your giving Paul Shirley and Yuta Tabuse enough credit for the 2004 turn-around season...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 2 2006, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont know how he gets 8 assists. He's a selfish player and takes ugly shots. Watch him play.</div> I've been hearing that he looks better this season. I have not watched him yet this year...although in previous seasons he's been like you've described.