Re: Kramer's racial tyrade I'm sure all of you have seen the video, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the situation.Is the media blowing it out of proportion? Do you accept his apology?
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade I've seen it - and although the obscenities weren't directed at me personally, they are saying something about minorities in general. I don't think his apology was sincere - I don't believe it's possible for someone who truly believes in the things he said in his apology could go on such a hateful and detailed tirade. I mean if he said some minor things than I could possibly see something from this - but he went all out and just said things that were unacceptable for anyone to say. I've of course lost all respect for the man, this respect was already shaky because I was only going off of what other people were telling me about this man - this guy is a bigot, simple as that.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade The only reason this is news is because it was caught on a camera phone. There's no reason much of anybody should care... he's not important in the broad scheme of things. I've said worse, but jokingly. At the worst he is an idiot who is not funny, and at worst he is an idiotic bigot who is pretty harmless.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab3pos2Pretty good read right there...
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade From the Article:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But I do find it's getting more and more difficult to intelligently celebrate a black man who repeatedly calls himself "n-----" and then chastise a white guy for saying "He's a n-----." It just seems like there's a disconnect there.</div>I believe in this 100%. If black people are going to use it towards each other, then why can't white people use it, even in a non racist way. I know that I use it from time to time, and not once have I had bad intentions with it. I don't see the problem with it if its used not trying to hurt someone. About Kramer, I believe that he was right that he was angry and pissed off that he was being heckled. I also don't think he meant it and that he was pissed off. I believe his apology was somewhat sincere and that people made WAY too big of a deal of it than it shoudl have been.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade The media isnt blowing this up too much at all. He used racial comments towards black people during his own routine. That is unacceptable, and I will never accept an apology from him. I dont care if they were heckling him, there is no excuse for that kind of behaviour, and he has shown his true colours.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade The media is blowing this up big time. One man goes off on two black guys and now every time I turn on the TV I have to hear about it. Don't get me wrong, this needed to be addressed, but not to the whole nation for the next three months. This should have been a one time thing on the news and then later after any/if any punishments were given out, update the nation on that. Then it should have been over. Two times on the news, that is it. Kramer isn't a high powered man, we don't need to hear about this every day.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Dec 2 2006, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The media is blowing this up big time. One man goes off on two black guys and now every time I turn on the TV I have to hear about it. Don't get me wrong, this needed to be addressed, but not to the whole nation for the next three months. This should have been a one time thing on the news and then later after any/if any punishments were given out, update the nation on that. Then it should have been over. Two times on the news, that is it. Kramer isn't a high powered man, we don't need to hear about this every day.</div>He went after multiple races - that encompasses millions of people.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade Who cares? he is a comedian and if he wants to use racial slurs let him. lets not forget how many black celebrities have come out and said derogitory things against whites, but that must be OK because we dont hear sh*t about it. Personally I;ve never found this guy funny, he's always reminded me of Bigbird. this country is so goddamned PC now that its becomming retarded, if he had lynched a person than yes there should be an outcry, but as it stands now it was just words.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Dec 2 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He went after multiple races - that encompasses millions of people.</div>Yeah, but I was reffering to the fact that two black guys started it and that is what set Kramer off. I am not saying what he did was right, just that this has gotten out of hand. If I went out and started yelling in the streets the same thing, I wouldn't be on national news for days. Kramer isn't a politcal leader, just a comedian, so why do I have to hear about one man's views all day?
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Dec 2 2006, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who cares? he is a comedian and if he wants to use racial slurs let him. lets not forget how many black celebrities have come out and said derogitory things against whites, but that must be OK because we dont hear sh*t about it. Personally I;ve never found this guy funny, he's always reminded me of Bigbird. this country is so goddamned PC now that its becomming retarded, if he had lynched a person than yes there should be an outcry, but as it stands now it was just words.</div>You probably havent seen the video.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade It's bullsh**. Kramer was just shooting down some hecklers. Hecklers deserve to be treated like sh*t for not showing respect and having some f*cking manners.This race thing is so F*cked up. A black comedian can say what he wan'ts about white people and nothing happens. Listen to Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle and about 99% of all other black comedians. They all talk sh*t and poke fun at white people. There's nothing wrong with and it's funny, but nobody gets offended. But the very minute a white guy talks sh*t on a black dude (a heckler no less) all of a sudden it's being treated as a hate crime. Even though his tirade covered many races, it's still outrageous to villenize this guy for just saying words.Black people say Nigger all the time. Guess what, being black isn't a club, you don't get special word privileges. A word isn't all of a sudden bad just because somebody who's a different color says it. In fact, black people are more racist and stereotypical than whites anyway. Most white people try to stay politically correct. It's blacks who abuse the race issue and manipulate it for their own gain.I do think Kramer should apologize for going on such an epic rant but once is enough, and if those people are too self riteous to accept then they can go F*ck themselves.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Dec 2 2006, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's bullsh**. Kramer was just shooting down some hecklers. Hecklers deserve to be treated like sh*t for not showing respect and having some f*cking manners.This race thing is so F*cked up. A black comedian can say what he wan'ts about white people and nothing happens. Listen to Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle and about 99% of all other black comedians. They all talk sh*t and poke fun at white people. There's nothing wrong with and it's funny, but nobody gets offended. But the very minute a white guy talks sh*t on a black dude (a heckler no less) all of a sudden it's being treated as a hate crime. Even though his tirade covered many races, it's still outrageous to villenize this guy for just saying words.Black people say Nigger all the time. Guess what, being black isn't a club, you don't get special word privileges. A word isn't all of a sudden bad just because somebody who's a different color says it. In fact, black people are more racist and stereotypical than whites anyway. Most white people try to stay politically correct. It's blacks who abuse the race issue and manipulate it for their own gain.I do think Kramer should apologize for going on such an epic rant but once is enough, and if those people are too self riteous to accept then they can go F*ck themselves.</div>No one cares if he said nigger - god damn - go watch the damn video. It's not all he said.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Dec 2 2006, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He went after multiple races - that encompasses millions of people.</div>This kinda reminds me of that whole bomb-on-Mohammed's-head thing. Sure, it was probably highly offensive to some people, but no one should care. Seriously. No one cared when Mel Gibson was racist towards that Jewish cop. I wonder why? Probably because it's Jews and of course they don't matter, right? See, it's just silliness. There's no reason we should even know or care about these things, but they always get blown up to be a big deal. This thing really affects more like 100 or so people that were there, and affects them very little. Who cares if a non-funny washup says something racist? More important people have said worse things.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Dec 2 2006, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No one cares if he said nigger - god damn - go watch the damn video. It's not all he said.</div>I've seen it. Nothing too bad. An "I'm sorry" is enough though.
Re: Kramer's racial tyrade lol Yeah a lot of black people are angry. niggaz need to calm down nowadays. but yo black comedians do say a lot of stuff about white people. But what Richards said about "100 years.... with a fork up your ass". That's some racist sh*t. We dont have to get all ya ya grrr about it. just dont support the man and his work and let it go. every 7:00 pm on weekdays I watch the simpsons Eastern time. right after I USED to watch seinfield. but now I just switch to something else. He has lost respect from me. And to note he used the word NIGGER not nigga at first. Honestly though I could careless, like I said no respect from me. Us black people need to move on from him as racist ass."100 years.... with a fork up your ass"<--not a cool statement. image what he says when lets say a black guy gets the last cambodian breast milk and he was next. He probably sayin to his self some MORE racist sh*t then what he said at the comedy show. He showed his true colors.
