I think I have found Batum's replacement

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  1. RoyToy

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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Exactly

    We're talking about the chance at an unprecedented run in Blazers history. It would be awesome.
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    You're kind of discounting Wade's greatness
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    I don't see how acquiring LBJ, if even possible, is even in question? As long as we don't trade Dame, Aldridge and Lopez in process.

    LBJ is the superstar version of Batum. Everything we lack, he would fill easily. Post up, getting to the foul line, clutch playmaking, and defense. And you know dame well he would be so invested in Portland too!
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Perhaps but at the same time you may be discounting Dame and LMA with another year of growth and improved game from having LBJ on the court with them. I can see it them being every bit as successful and maybe more clutch
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Wade and Bosh were absolutely awesome! The fact that Miami didn't even have a center and made it to the finals for 4 years straight says a lot under those circumstances.

    My argument isn't "Our big 3 is better than their big 3", it's that we have a center and perfect SG for LBJ. So it's our "big 5" is better than Miami's "big 3"
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Well said Mags. Rep'd

    Edit: Damn it! "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to magnifier661 again."
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    With LBJ on board I don't think Wes would be around
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    LeBron needs to stay there and make it work. It's an organization that everything they did in the offseason. They did for him. It's not like they aren't trying.
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Why? Money? Or he would have to be part of the trade? Because if its money I cant imagine a more likely scenario for PA to open his wallet
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    What do you mean? Like we would have to trade Wes to get LBJ? No way Cleveland would do that for 3 reasons...

    1.) Matthews is unrestricted, so he would absolutely bolt.

    2.) Cleveland would want player(s) that would still be under contract.

    3.) Trading Matthews would leave a gaping hole at 2.

    If you make a trade, use Batum, CJ, T. Rob and Leonard. That gives Cleveland a poor man's LBJ, with an up and coming SG, a young raw Leonard and T. Rob
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    With LBJ/Aldridge/Lillard making the MAX, it gets to a point where is it really worth paying Wes that much money for a small role?

    Depends on how much luxury tax Allen wants to spend
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Why are you guys talking about trades?

    LeBron would be a FA
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Can someone help me understand how we get max cap space without letting at least two of our starters (and probably 3 of our top 6) go? Then it becomes something you have to think about. Maybe you still do it, but you have to thisnk about it.
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    Oh shit sorry... I was thinking Cleveland would want to trade before he becomes a free agent.
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    I was thinking differently... I was thinking Cleveland would want to trade LBJ before he became a free agent. With a trade, then we could keep the entire team, excluding who we traded of course, locked up for many years
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    I thought they pretty much had nothing on the books for next year?
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    The problem is the cap holds on our existing players. Brian is right... We would need to give up Matthews and Lopez in order to offer a max to LBJ
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    The salary cap this season is $63M

    The Blazers have $36M on the books for next season

    A MAX offer per year is what, like $20M-$25M per year?

    The Blazers could make it work before re-signing guys like Adridge etc, unless I'm horribly wrong on how the NBA salary cap and contracts work.
     
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    Re: Cap space plan 2015: LeBron James

    The cap holds on Matthews is 150% of his last contract (13 mil or something), Lopez has a cap hold of 200% because he's below average (10 mil), Aldridge is 150% of his last contract, so what's that like 20 mil?
     
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    It doesn't work like that
     
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