Hubble takes the biggest image ever of Andromeda at 1.5 billion pixels

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  1. tlongII

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    Faith. And logical reasoning.
     
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    That picture sucks. I've seen more zoomable ones of other galaxies. And I 've never read before that Andromeda has a trillion stars. It should be at most a half-trillion, since it's a little bigger than the Milky Way and we have about 300 billion.

    You can see Andromeda yourself on many nights. It's that little white smear you think is a cloud in the dark.
     
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    Back 35 years ago pictures did not come via film either. That's why I thought that read funny! I can't even think of a way to use film and get an image back to earth.
    When Voyager transmitted the images below back to earth 35 years ago, it took a couple days of processing time to turn the bit map, transmitted bit by bit, in to images.
    The three images represent steps in the processing time on 370 mainframe computers at Ames Research in Sunny Vale CA. Had a little hand in that work myself.

    We have a hell of a lot faster computing and transmitting power today but then Hubble does have dated gear onboard.

    Sort of reminds me of what I am working on right now. Setting up communications at sea using the Winmor network, which I can receive email over HF radio when the Internet
    is not available. Works pretty slick to but slow compared to internet speeds. I can receive text fine but bitmap images is a fur ball for sure. A one k text message works good, a
    4 megbyte picture is a no go. We do the receiving and out bound coding with a PC sound card and transmitt in code. The reason for such this of course is cost but it is enabled
    by technology. Weather data can be transmitted in Grib files and overlayed on existing images at the receiving end rather than transmit images every time.

    I think a Hubble replacement will have the ability to send us wondrous images, perhaps beyond imagination. Especially if they can get to the point of not sending redundant
    data, only the new or change. Wow! you could really build up a picture of what is happening. Correction, what happened many many years ago.

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    Not every creationist, but nice try. You may want to look how many atheist or agnostics don't believe in other educated life in the universe either.
     
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    Ah don't be harsh Mags! The man has faith! He believes life spontaneously happens where ever. That takes faith when you have zero evidence to support the proposed postulate.
     
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    True, but I just wanted to point out that there are many in science, that thinks life in this universe being random; that it's highly improbable the of life being somewhere else.
     
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    In the 60s, both American and Soviet spy satellites returned their film via parachuted canisters. One type of Russian spy satellite still does, and another type radios it encrypted, like all American ones do now. In the mid-60s, I read about how the plane near Hawaii catches the parachute on a hook.

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    Yes, a low earth orbit, high cost solution. I bet a replacement for Hubble will be far out in a stationary orbit. Getting a parachute back from there is mind boggling. You can guess why pictures from Voyager did not come by parachute.
     
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    the solar wind blows the parachutes ------> that way
     
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    Who said educated life?
     
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    It is much more logical than the opposite. I'm surprised you don't realize this.
     
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    Say what?! That Galaxy is billions of years older than us. It's much bigger than ours as well. Surely it should have evolved or even more evolved beings randomly like us no?
     
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    But who said educated life?
     
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    Come on man, you are smarter than this. Don't you believe in evolution? If a planet with any life evolving 2,000,000,000 years earlier than our planet, then obviously the evolution would make intelligent life. So any comment that says, life is improbable outside our solar system, means "intelligent life". Think with your head, not with your dick
     
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    Evolution does not equal intelligence. On this planet under these conditions yes but that is a very small sample size. Evolution on other planets could mean there is only one life, one massive life form, a giant planet covering mold. Could mean a better predator, a tyrannosaurus rex from hell. Not smart enough to talk or write but king of his world.
     
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    Let's get back to talking about Uranus.
     
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    Out of billions of species that have existed here, only one has been intelligent enough to plan for tomorrow.

    A lot of places life might take hold can be so harsh an environment that evolution barely happens at all.

    Though I think most mammal exhibit significant intelligence.
     
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    It is much more logical than the opposite. I'm surprised you don't realize this.

    Well to me, expecting life somewhere is illogical. We haven't found any, and they haven't found us. It would be illogical to think all other life, if it exists, isn't at least as intelligent as us.
    And if it is, you have to believe it would have found a way to make a profit on us by now, don't you think?:bgrin:
     
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    So you are saying that a planet that had a single cell microbe, a few billion years older to start evolution, may only be a single cell organism planet?!?! You are saying there would be no evolution on that planet???
     

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