Hubble takes the biggest image ever of Andromeda at 1.5 billion pixels

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  1. Denny Crane

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    What I believe is nobody knows the probability.

    It's not zero because there's life on earth.

    The evidence suggests there should be life out there. That's why people are spending lots of money trying to detect it.

    The issue of detection is that it is currently being done from VERY far away. You know, like Hawaii is from Oregon in that analogy that went way over your head.
     
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    Weird that you use this for your conclusion in this argument, but completely ignore this same concept for others.

    I get it man. You accept things when it supports your argument, but will ignore it when it doesn't. At least that became apparent.
     
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    Other arguments that lack any evidence whatsoever?

    You bet I don't accept them.

    :lol:
     
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    No Denny, this has been your trademark throughout any debate, regardless if it's religious, science, political or even basketball. The proof is all over this board.

    No wonder no one takes you seriously when you partake in a debate with them
     
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    I question claims I see people make. One should be that sort of skeptic, or you will be fooled into believing something untrue.

    Where you can, verify.

    Sorry your claims don't stand up to scrutiny. That's not my fault.

    TLong was right.
     
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    Lmao if you say so, but even in this thread you've agreed and disagreed with him! Hahahaha

    Maybe we should just call you two face then
     
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    In this thread, I've said three words.

    TLong is right.

    CREATIONwiki.com for the win.

    I've not argued against his assertion, because it stood up to scrutiny. Get it?
     
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    You've said way more than 3 words, but we all know you Denny. This is why Barfo, jlpk and anyone else that argues with you usually beats you to the ground.

    Your denial of the fact you straddled the fence is when you conceded.

    End of story
     
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    TLong is right.

    End of that story.

    It was you who misquoted the scientist who says life is rare as if it meant only on earth.

    That started a very different discussion about how rare life might be. That has nothing to do with TLong being right.

    His claim stands up to scrutiny. Yours rarely do.

    I've learned to live with that about you.
     
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    The article I posted is a true quote. It was from "national geographic" so the source is reputable. In this thread you even admitted that you don't believe life exists outside of Earth. You know being a skeptic and all.

    Skeptical about "Life outside this planet" means you find it hard to believe, so you would lean toward the "non-belief" position.

    You were the demise all by yourself. My statement was that even atheist don't believe life exists outside this planet. You argued it didn't, therefor you actually proved for me (thank you btw), that not only do Christians believe this. All I needed is one person, outside the Christian perspective that shares the same belief (life does not exist outside planet earth)

    Can't wait to hear your back assword excuse from here.
     
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    No mags. I've come to accept that you misstate facts and statements that don't suit you.

    I have no reason to believe anything but the origin of life is an improbable event.

    To you, "improbable" means "impossible."

    Not in the English language, bro.

    So there's what I wrote, and what you turned into something else and claim I wrote that. Again, you don't stand up to scrutiny.

    It's really not that hard to scroll back through the thread and quote the actual words.

    You misquoted TLong, too.
     
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    "who thinks we may as well be" is not the same thing as "who thinks we are."

    Credible source. Mis characterized what it said.

    Good grief.

    All the estimates are highly speculative. I said the same thing - that nobody knows the true probability. I also wrote that there is no conclusive proof of life elsewhere.

    Quibble away.
     
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    We have proof that life exists here. Why wouldn't it exist somewhere else.
     
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    When something is 99.999999999999999999999999999999% certain, it's okay to be lazy and just call it certain, even though it's really only 99.999999999999999999999999999999% certain.

    99.999999999999999999999999999999% of people think this way. Only mathematicians require proof of common sense.
     
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    Show me this 99.99999999% math.
     
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    I'll show you mine :)

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    This is fun!

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    Note that .03 is not zero.
     
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    If you're not so optimistic about the guess for the various variables, you don't get the 99.99999999% surety kind of results.

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    50-50 is very optimistic., for starters. I concede my probabilities are equally a guess. We don't know if it is 50-50 or very close to 0.

    If it were 50-50 and that many habitable planets, then surely there'd be 50 of those "hundred" stars within 21 light years with life. Or at least one. So much for optimism.

    50% of 160 in our stellar neighborhood would be 80. ;)

    Your estimate for number of habitable planets is an enormous number, an outlier, and tens of magnitudes (at least) more than the others.

    And the actual number we know about, in theory, is 21.

    http://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog
     
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