new batting coach speaks.....lol

Anybody see this from our new Batting Coach?

http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20150115&content_id=106522898&oid=36019

 

..."talk is cheap".

 

You mean like all the words spoken by kevin long in his book?

 

...don't know what Long has to with Pentland assuming things before the season has even started, but since you brought him up, you mean the same Kevin Long who was snapped up by the Mets 2 weeks after the Yanx basically blamed the 2014 Yankees offense on Long?...that Kevin Long?

...and if you read the first paragraph in your article, even Pentland acknowledges that he's "got a long road ahead of him in replacing Kevin Long".

 

We all agree a "batting coach" is usually NOT the difference in a team's chances of winning a WS ......yeesh.

But if ever a team chose to replace its batting coach, the Yankees have about as much justification as any other team.

Yankee team:

2013-
10th out of 15 in Runs scored
12th out of 15 in OPB
12th out of 15 in BA

2014-
13th out of 15 in Runs scored
14th out of 15 in OBP
11th out of 15 in BA

Now can we get over poor little Kevin Long's dismissal?
Don't worry, he won't be applying for Public Assistance any time soon.

Are you related to this guy? lmao

 

Obviously Pentland is being a gentleman and is acknowledging Long's tenure.
Yeesh, are you serious? Cut it out, you're better than this.


And as far as the Mets snapping Long up, lol.....really.....?.....are we now deferring to the Mets? Really? This is a major coup? Shocking.



See ➡ public relations dept

 

^^^huh?, I'm " better than" what?

...I made a simple comment about the Pentland article being little more than "talk". ST has not even begun yet, yet the new guy is talking in generalities even though he has spent 0 minutes working with the Yankee hitters. Again, the article was about nothing really, and it didn't shed any light on anything we didn't already know.
...You then decided to interject Kevin Long and some fucking book as if either has some sort of relevance...which brings us to the present.

 

http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20150115&content_id=106522898&oid=36019

 

...^^^ yeah, I saw it the first time...your point is....?

 

To the OP Thread: He instructs and can talk too...? Wow...!!!

I don't want to compare apples with oranges, but I'm sure as Hell going to anyway......

If Pentland was so damned good, then why did the Bums off him for McGwire (who IMO would not be my choice at all for a Hitting Coach).....

The last Bums offing, the Yanx acquired was Cappy aka Crapuano. I have nothing against Cappy, other than He's not quit the finesse pitcher I expected. He's on one inning, and getting hit all over the park the next....He should of retired a couple years ago........IMHO.......

 

...^^^ this !...I started to bring up the same question.

...hitting coaches, on occasion, can help a batter by offering advice and/or working on mechanics, etc., but ultimately, it's up to the BATTER to take the advice and implement it once the game begins. Teams fire coaches only because they cannot fire players.
...Hitting coaches are not makers or breakers, because if they were, teams would be lining up to offer them huge contracts every off season. There's a reason why hitting coaches average making less than 1/10th of what players average.

 

To the OP Thread: He instructs and can talk too...? Wow...!!!

I don't want to compare apples with oranges, but I'm sure as Hell going to anyway......

If Pentland was so damned good, then why did the Bums off him for McGwire (who IMO would not be my choice at all for aHittingCoach).....

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The main point of my post (Pentland) was the possibility of what Gregorius may become as their SS.
Pentland happens to be the current batting coach and I see no reason to ridicule or belittle him for offering HIS OPINION.
We can can go back and forth on whether or not the Yankees were "wrong" in replacing Long - some of us may believe it doesn't matter one way or another, some of us may feel its just business as usual when a team (Yankees) chooses to replace a couple of coaches for THEIR reasons. Last time I checked, the Yankees didn't violate any contract or labor union agreement.

The new batting coach chose to comment on a young player who can/may become one of their better young players for years to come and some of you had nothing better to offer.

 

^^^Cashman and the Yanx obviously saw the same possibility well before Pentland's sphincter tightening insight, otherwise they would not have acquired Gregorius.

 

1- I doubt many here would disagree, we burned that debate down, beat it to death....with no intentions to keep hashing out the same old discussion.

2- How could I or others here offer any insight? None of us have been privy to on the field insight of the kid, to say shit from shinola to him, or for him, or even His Future.....~~!!!

 

I'll reserve judgement until I start to see Teixeira hitting against the shift on a regular basis.

 

That's it? Tex needs to consistently hit against the shift?
I'm kinda leaning towards something along the lines of J.R. Murphy and Gregarious crediting the batting coach with helping them along to very respectable BAs and OBPs and also seeing Tex go against the shift would be very nice.

 

Maybe Refsnyder or Pirela will hit it off with the batting coach?
lol

Make the kids feel comfortable and more confident?
Who knows, crazier things have happened.

 

Ah nice to see the devil doing his good work in a batting coach thread.

You can only roll with the same coaches/advisers/consultants for so long (pardon the pun). I don't care what the organization is. You don't trash mgmt or employees when you still have the opportunity to alter the consultant class. Some of you don't agree with this philosophy, but you would indeed be in the minority in corporate America.

They don't fire employees they get traded away. You either stick with you mgmt structure or you don't. The Steins felt Joe and Brian were the right people for the job at hand. Thus the shaking up the coaching staff. Beyond looking at the personnel changes, you also need to think about impact of all these coaches and players trying to figure out the dynamics at play. Girardi is the big winner, the full focus and mantle of leadership is on him now. Its going to be interesting to see how this group develops.

 

...lol, yeah, CEOs, CFOs, GMs, etc., never get fired for doing a poor job. Funny that you claim that people who disagree with your stance "would be in the minority", but you've also said on numerous occasions that you're used to being in the minority....how's that work?


...so you think Cashman really merited a new contract?...yes or no?

...do you really think Long was the reason the offense sucked last year?...yes or no?

 

This ought to be good.