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  1. MARIS61

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  2. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    My theory is that, because Islam as a religion is 700 years younger than Christianity, it hasn't been beaten down by the world to the point where it doesn't take offense much anymore. In 1300, Christianity was still rocking hard with the Might of Right stuff. Think King Phillip IV of France.
     
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    1700 A.D., Christians were burning heretics at the stake, Salem witch trials, tortured people (Spanish Inquisition), and committed genocide (wiped out millions of American Indians).
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I was hoping the giant cross would fall on them. They could have made it on Americas funniest home videos.
     
  5. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    All that in the name of God ("Onward, Christian soldiers") too. I'm sad and angry that all of this is happening, but they'll catch up. Harsh economic situations breed opportunists who exploit the desperate through delusions of being wronged.
     
  6. MarAzul

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    Geez that is an ignorant post. There was nothing in those events that made the perpetrators Christian. Horrible historical events indeed, absolutely and completely unchristian.

    I suppose it comes from lack of study, but then, it could be in support of an agenda.
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Study.

    The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic MonarchsFerdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
     
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    All these Inquisitions! Sort of a power agenda thing no doubt, but hardly inspired by the teachings of Jesus. Perhaps a rather flagrant mis use of the power of his name but hardly inspired by him.

    And the "Papal control"! Big power player! Kind of reminds me of the current (New) Pope and his "encyclical on climate change". Holy Christ! He too needs to study his Bible! He will be hard pressed to find a teaching of Jesus that will inspire the support of this crusade. More likely he is looking to polish his legacy, but then he is a man, not a prophet.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/12/29/pope_francis_ponti

    Don't blame the Christians for this crusade, it too is lead by men seeking what men covet and most of them have forgotten about the power of Jesus' name. Only the Pope remembered that schtick.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    The same can be said for Muslims.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
     
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    Oh Denny! Some study is long over due. I know Barrack Obama wishes to poo pooh any wrong attributed to Islam.
    But you have no right to be ignorant of the facts, a little reading is all you need.

    Think of this quote from the Koran the next time you see a Muslim cutting off a head.

    "It is a missive from the Lord of the worlds.
    But if Muhammad had fabricated concerning us any sayings,
    We had surely seized him by the right hand,
    And had cut through the vein of his neck.5
    Nor would We have withheld any one of you from him.
    But, verily, It (the Koran) isa warning for the God-fearing;
    And we well know that there are of you who treat it as a falsehood.
    But it shall be the despair of infidels,
    For it is the very truth of sure knowledge.
    Praise, then, the name of thy Lord, the Great."

    Or how about this one for teaching exclusion?

    "
    Mecca. 31 Verses
    In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
    Doth not a long time pass over MAN, during which he is a thing
    unremembered?1
    We have created man from the union of the sexes that we might
    prove him; and hearing, seeing, have we made him:
    In a right way have we guided him, be he thankful or ungrateful.
    For the Infidels we have got ready chains and collars and flaming
    fire. "


    You won't find any teachings of Jesus comparable. It's like the Muslims
    (Mohammad) rejected the teachings of Jesus and reverted to the
    Old testament and then, one up it.
     
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    Similar hate filled verses quoted by bible thumpers regarding gay persons.

    Next?
     
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    Sure there is. In the Old testament. But then you don't understand the difference do you? Now you see the need for the teachings of Jesus.
    He would have us do better.
     
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    In his name, torture, burning at the stake, and all the rest.

    You have a problem with your argument because whatever you claim is true about Muslims driven by their religion is true of Christians, too.

    It just goes in cycles.
     
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    I'm sure that Denny's not insinuating that there would be a problem with (in the spirit of fairness and equality) Christianity going back to the good ol' days, but it kinda sounds like it.

    Yep, the Inquisition was bad. In the 15th century
    Salem wasn't our finest hour. In the 17th century
    Crusades were run by mostly morally decrepit guys "fighting for Christ" and their own glory/pocketbook. In the 12th century.

    2 guys blew up the Boston Marathon last year. 3 guys killed more than a dozen cartoonists and shoppers last week. Boko Haram is killing thousands in Nigeria as we speak. I could go into more detail if stuff was open source.
     
  15. MarAzul

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    No Denny, things may have be done by men using the the name of Jesus, but you can reject that claim by reading what Jesus taught. You won't find any teachings of Jesus
    to support torture, Burning at the stake or what. Acts have been done by men that can't read, don't read, or have another agenda which surely has nothing to do with their salvation.

    Now with the Muslims, it is entirely the other way, you can find in the teaching of Mohammad, in his Koran the support to do a plethora despicable acts, especially to infidels.
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    The Inquisition wasn't just 2 guys.

    Neither was the Crusades...

    Neither were the Witch Trials.
     
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    So to sum up:

    Violent muslims read selectively from their holy book.
    Violent christians read selectively from their holy book.
    Peaceful christians read selectively from their holy book.
    Peaceful muslims read selectively from their holy book.

    Selective reading is fun-damental.

    barfo
     
  18. MarAzul

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    Well Denny, most of the atrocities perpetrated by so called Christians, where done by men not so different from yourself.
    BY men that failed to either find out what the teachings of Jesus were or and why he took the effort enlighten men.

    It's easy to point and wail, it takes effort to learn. But not so hard, just read and think, you can do it!!
     
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    Hey! Enough of you get together with some cash, I will come teach. You might be surprised to find understanding improves your selectivity which in turn can improve your understanding.
    But here, think on this; the Buddhist don't teach to do unmentionable things to do unto the infidels or any other alienating handle. Neither do the Hindus or the Sikhs. They seem to have that in common with Jesus. Weird huh?
     
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    Rarely we agree. ThIs is one of those times.
     

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