And the worst big man in the NBA is...

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SlyPokerDog, Jan 19, 2015.

Moderators: 6

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
Page 1 of 2
  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    126,184
    Likes Received:
    146,491
    Trophy Points:
    115
    [​IMG]
     
    SlyPokerDog, Jan 19, 2015
    #1
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    126,184
    Likes Received:
    146,491
    Trophy Points:
    115
    I'd be happy with a top 3 NBA big man but we don't, we just have soft LMA.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Jan 19, 2015
    #2
  3. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,752
    Likes Received:
    36,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When I saw the picture load, I was like "uhh... really? Cousins?" lol.
     
    Strenuus, Jan 19, 2015
    #3
  4. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    68,405
    Likes Received:
    67,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Does this mean Hashim Thabeet is out of the league?
     
    riverman, Jan 19, 2015
    #4
  5. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I know, right? It's as if we have the 3rd best big in the league in the post, but Stotts stupidly makes him shoot jumpers he's 79th best at.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 19, 2015
    #5
  6. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,752
    Likes Received:
    36,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's on the Grand Rapids Drive of the D-League. One step above the Eastern Conference.
     
    Strenuus, Jan 19, 2015
    #6
  7. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    21,056
    Likes Received:
    10,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wow Marc Gasol's numbers aren't too impressive.
     
    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94, Jan 19, 2015
    #7
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    19,094
    Likes Received:
    22,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The TOVs are surprisingly high for such a good passing big man. I expect that from DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe, but not Marc Gasol.

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Jan 19, 2015
    #8
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    19,094
    Likes Received:
    22,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, apparently it means he's in Houston wearing a Dwight Howard disguise.

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Jan 19, 2015
    #9
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  10. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's weird how LA has more post possessions per game than Cousins, and is 3rd in that list for post possessions per game... I must be reading this data wrong.
     
    BlazerCaravan, Jan 19, 2015
    #10
  11. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, you're reading it correctly. It's saying that Cousins has 8 possessions in the post per game, and LMA 8.5. What it doesn't say is that Cousins has 337 of his 487 shots in the paint (69.1%), while LMA has 268 of his 753 (35.6%) in the paint. So yes, LMA has more "post possessions per game", but Cousins has way more shots per game in the paint and a better result when he does do so.

    That's not to say LMA sucks at it at all (he's #3, only a couple of percentage points behind), it's to show that LMA, for whatever reason, #3 in the league in post offensive efficiency and 79th in mid-range, but shoots much more outside. Or in other terms, where Cousins has 150 shots outside the paint to go with his 8 post possessions, LMA has about 500 shots outside the paint.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 19, 2015
    #11
  12. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    19,998
    Likes Received:
    16,631
    Trophy Points:
    113
    All this says is that he is the worst of the best.
     
    PDXFonz, Jan 19, 2015
    #12
  13. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why the hell does Boogie get half the shots LMA does if he's so fucking awesome?
     
    BlazerCaravan, Jan 19, 2015
    #13
  14. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He gets 17 shots per game, which for most teams is the team leader. And he's been out for 14 games, so pure counting stats are down. But LMA and K*be are the only players averaging 20, unless you round up, in which case you get Westbrook and Melo. If you're a fan of counting stats (I'm not, particularly) you could say that Cousins has a double-double in 23 of his 28 games played, while LMA has 20 in his 37.

    Part of what makes him "so fucking awesome" is that in his 17 shots per game he takes 70% of them in a place where he's the best in the league at what he does. Which makes him have a higher ppg, a higher ppm, a higher pps, a higher rebounding rate, more blocks/g, more steals/g, more assists/g than the "top 3 big man in the NBA". In fact, people rightly bring up that LMA is one of 3 players in the NBA in Top 10 in rebounding and points per game. But Cousins is the only one in the Top 5 in both.

    I don't get the hostility towards Cousins. You can still like LMA while acknowledging that Cousins is good.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 19, 2015
    #14
  15. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    29,165
    Likes Received:
    9,844
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    D

    M

    C
     
    Fez Hammersticks, Jan 19, 2015
    #15
  16. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And vice versa. I'm hostile towards that jack wagon who uses Cousins to say LMA sucks. I've ignored him so I forget his username, but he sucks.
     
    BlazerCaravan, Jan 19, 2015
    #16
  17. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, fair enough.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 19, 2015
    #17
  18. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SWEET JINX ,BRO
     
    EL PRESIDENTE, Jan 19, 2015
    #18
  19. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you'd think Cousins would've been the one who got hurt, tho.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 19, 2015
    #19
  20. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    So let me get this straight. Aldridge posts up more, turns the ball over less and actually scores more than Cousins?

    Who said we would be a better team with Cousins instead of Aldridge?
     
    magnifier661, Jan 20, 2015
    #20
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page