Early Season MVP pick?

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    About 15 games in.I'd go with Dwight Howard, kobe(...), someone from the Jazz, or perhaps Melo. It's most likely a Jazz or Magic player since those teams have come out of nowhere and become winning teams.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 5 2006, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>About 15 games in.I'd go with Dwight Howard, kobe(...), someone from the Jazz, or perhaps Melo. It's most likely a Jazz or Magic player since those teams have come out of nowhere and become winning teams.</div>The thing about MVP is that most people forget that MVP players can be recognized at almost any time in the season, you can consider a candidate post All Star Break also. I gaurantee you if you made a list of four players for MVP, at least 2-3 would not even be considered at the end of the season. MVP is a big award, it takes lots of thinking and analyzing players as the season goes on. Who knows if Redd will keep his average above 30? Or if Nash will keep his assists past 12 maybe? Will Nash repeat? Will Kobe step it up with the assisting or the points? No way to tell really if you ask me, speculation espcially for MVP awards, is usually false. I mean Hey, not saying this will happen, but Chris Bosh could win MVP this year, we dont know.
     
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    Boozer or Randolph are dark horse runners for MVP, but I'd go with Yao Ming. He has good stats (25.6 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 1.81 BPG) and the Rockets are 11-5 behind his efforts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Dec 5 2006, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The thing about MVP is that most people forget that MVP players can be recognized at almost any time in the season, you can consider a candidate post All Star Break also. I gaurantee you if you made a list of four players for MVP, at least 2-3 would not even be considered at the end of the season. MVP is a big award, it takes lots of thinking and analyzing players as the season goes on. Who knows if Redd will keep his average above 30? Or if Nash will keep his assists past 12 maybe? Will Nash repeat? Will Kobe step it up with the assisting or the points? No way to tell really if you ask me, speculation espcially for MVP awards, is usually false. I mean Hey, not saying this will happen, but Chris Bosh could win MVP this year, we dont know.</div>Yeah, but I"m talking about if the award were today obviously. Take a top player on a top team who contributes the most
     
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    Kobe
     
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    Kobe Bryant, Carmello Anthony or Someone from the Jazz
     
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    -Kobe-Melo-Boozer [​IMG]-Yao-Dwight HowardI'm sure I missed a few, but if any of those were to win it now I wouldn't be surprised. Kobe has been doing really good. He's been playing phenomenal at less then 100%
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 5 2006, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>About 15 games in.I'd go with Dwight Howard, kobe(...), someone from the Jazz, or perhaps Melo. It's most likely a Jazz or Magic player since those teams have come out of nowhere and become winning teams.</div>Wow, how the hell would Dwight Howard win MVP? He's been inconsistent as hell on offense, and he's not good enough to win it. The Magic stay at the top either.My pick is Lebron James. The Cavs will probably have a 2nd or 3rd seed with the way it's looking now. Lebron might be the best player in the NBA, and he has humungous star power.Dirk Nowitzki will be a contender, but he won't win it over Lebron. Kobe is not having the same year he had last season,a nd the Laker's wont finish high enough. Tim Duncan isnt popular enough, and he doesn't post enough numbers to win it. He might be back in contention for it this year though. Melo...ergh..the numbers will fall down to around 30 points a game, and I just dont see Melo winning it. I dont care what kind of year he's having. Who else? Okay..DWade..the Heat are playing like crap right now, and it will be tough for him to win it..The Jazz are doing great, but Carlos Boozer just isnt good enough to be a candidate in my opinion. Steve Nash will NOT win it a 3rd time. That just won't happen. Period. He could end up averaging 25 and 10, and he still wouldnt win it 3 times in a row.There's some of my insight on it. Right now, I think it's between Lebron, Dirk, and Tim Duncan.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 6 2006, 06:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dirk Nowitzki will be a contender, but he won't win it over Lebron. Kobe is not having the same year he had last season,a nd the Laker's wont finish high enough. Tim Duncan isnt popular enough, The Jazz are doing great, but Carlos Boozer just isnt good enough to be a candidate in my opinion.</div>WOW I mean WOW - firstly the Lakers are playing great and don't look like stopping. Kobe has changed his game to blend with the new found confidence of his team mates. He can still put up a big night when needed - 52 against the Jazz anyone?TD isn't popular enough? He has never been mr popularity and yet he has 3 rings and 2 MVP's -so obiously that wont matter too much. Dirk's Team just rattled off 12 in a row he could definitely win it over Lebron. And Boozer is having a great year 22 and 12 on a team that went from missing the playoffs to being a high seed - he has a great shot. Stay off the crack CB4 - all the players you knocked have a redhot chance.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 5 2006, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>About 15 games in.I'd go with Dwight Howard, kobe(...), someone from the Jazz, or perhaps Melo. It's most likely a Jazz or Magic player since those teams have come out of nowhere and become winning teams.</div> Dwight Howard? Do you even follow basketball? Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA and he should finally get an MVP.
     
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    I have two guys that have impressed me the most so far, and who I believe shoudl win MVP.Melo-This guy is showing us that this is once again a three man battle for who was the best player from the 2003 draft. He has been scoring liek a maniac, but most importantly hes winning.Boozerp-Hes playing great, and has helped teh Jazz get out to a great startOthers-Kobe, Redd, Dwight Howard, Ai(despite all teh loosing), Dirk
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 5 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but I"m talking about if the award were today obviously. Take a top player on a top team who contributes the most</div>I keep saying that just because Boozer, Redd, and others have been shooting, producing alot lately, people forget the regulars. Nash is still a 20 Point and a 10 assist guy, who will give you 25 and 13 anyday. Kobe is still dominant. The reason these picks dont work in the beginning of the season is because these players that have a strong start to the season sometimes fade. Players like Redd, Boozer, Dwight Howard, have not proven to be consistent as elite players. However, Kobe, Nash, Tim Duncan, Lebron, Melo have been.
     
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    Melo, Boozer/Deron Williams, Dwight Howard. All 4 of them are good choices. But I guarantee by the end of the season the usual suspects will start to pop up in this discussion.
     
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    No way does Nash win it again. This year I'm guessing Kobe or Lebron.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clangus @ Dec 5 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WOW I mean WOW - firstly the Lakers are playing great and don't look like stopping. Kobe has changed his game to blend with the new found confidence of his team mates. He can still put up a big night when needed - 52 against the Jazz anyone?TD isn't popular enough? He has never been mr popularity and yet he has 3 rings and 2 MVP's -so obiously that wont matter too much. Dirk's Team just rattled off 12 in a row he could definitely win it over Lebron. And Boozer is having a great year 22 and 12 on a team that went from missing the playoffs to being a high seed - he has a great shot. Stay off the crack CB4 - all the players you knocked have a redhot chance.</div>Okay, the Lakers have played a total of 17 games. I still dont see them above the 6th seed in the West when it's all said and done. Yeah, but Kobe has just not put up the same numbers as he did last year. I dont think the judges will care too much if Kobe has changed his game. They look at numbers quite a bit to determine the MVP, and Kobe just hasnt put up the same ppg digits.Youre right, that statement was pretty dumb on my part, but come on - Tim Duncan is not the same player he was when he wont hose 2 MVP awards, and he has Tony Parker by his side now. I think he'll finish top 3 or 4 in voting though - no doubt. Oh, and Boozer's 22 and 12 WILL NOT hold up until the end of the season, I guarentee you. He's just gotten hot, and I think he'll end with about 18-19 ppg and 11 rpg..Also, Carlos Boozer has never put up these numbers before, and he's not a big enough name to be mentioned as a serious MVP candidate.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Dec 5 2006, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I keep saying that just because Boozer, Redd, and others have been shooting, producing alot lately, people forget the regulars. Nash is still a 20 Point and a 10 assist guy, who will give you 25 and 13 anyday. Kobe is still dominant. The reason these picks dont work in the beginning of the season is because these players that have a strong start to the season sometimes fade. Players like Redd, Boozer, Dwight Howard, have not proven to be consistent as elite players. However, Kobe, Nash, Tim Duncan, Lebron, Melo have been.</div>I absolutely agree with you here. Redd, Boozer, and Howard have started out well and are on fire early on so if the season ended today one of these players would be the MVP, and I would lean more towards Boozer than Howard and Redd. However, it is proven that many players start out very very hot, and sometimes fade. I need to see them all three play consistently the same way all season before I think of them as MVP's. Howard has still shown to be inconsistent at times this season, going for 18 points 16 boards one night, while the night before having went for 16 points and only 7 boards. By the end of the season, some of the consistent faces are going to be in this like Nash, Duncan, Lebron, Kobe, and I suspect to see Nowitzki get into this mix by the end of the season.
     
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    Seems to me that most people have already handed it to LeBron...I'd say Kobe, LeBron, D-Wade, Duncan, Nowitzki, and Nash will probably be the 6 most mentioned. Howard and Boozer's teams are unproven, so they're longshots while those 6 are lock picks (barring injury).
     
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    <span style="font-family:Comic Sans Ms">For right now:- Dwight Howard- Carlos Boozer- Carmelo Anthony</span>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 5 2006, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight Howard? Do you even follow basketball? Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA and he should finally get an MVP.</div>BCB, you have to look at it from the perspective that Dwight is the best player, on what is right now, the best team in the eastern conference. I know that he wont win it, but I dont think it is too bad of a thing to say his name....He is leading the league in rebounds, he is putting up over 16 a game, and his shot blocking has been great as well. I definitely dont think he is the #1 candidate, but I think he is in the top 5 SO FAR this season. If the Magic can stay #1 for the whole season (which I dont think they will) he will be in the runnings.But as of right now, I really think Kobe is the #1 selection. His team is playing great right now, he is playing great, and he isnt 100 percent yet. We have yet to see the best from him this season...
     
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    Why in the world has Yao not been mentioned more? For one thing, people don't seem to realize that the Rockets are only a half game behind both the Mavs and the Spurs. A half game. This is a team that won 35 games last year, yet, despite T-Mac not being his normal (at least until the game against the Warriors), they are one win away from leading the two best teams in the league.Yao has been a significant...no, that's not the right word...He's been THE reason they've been winning. The great thing is that it's not really a breakout, it's just continuing what he did in the last half of last season. Two very interesting (and true) articles from the Houston Chron, here and here. Read them, especially the second one.
     

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