OT ...lol...now the Pats supposed used "deflated balls"?

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    That makes more sense. I wouldn't think they'd intermingle those balls. I still don't get why the NFL expects or allows teams to produce the balls. I suspect that might change now.
     
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    ...oh, I'm sure there will be some fallout and some changes. If the reports are true about the balls being under inflated by 2 pounds, that's 4 pounds difference between what the highest PSI allowed is...that's a big gap and if a QB can tell the difference enough to prefer a softer football, I'm still amazed that the Ref who spots the ball on every play for both teams didn't notice it. Like I said earlier, hell, the Ref touches the balls more often than anyone else on the field.
    ...I know it was a cold and rainy day, but still.
     
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    multiple (mostly college) players, including QBs, from cold-weather schools called in to Cowherd today to say that it's not so much for the QB, though it helps those with smaller hands in colder/wetter conditions, but for RBs because under-inflated balls can be gripped harder without squeezing out (they reported, though I haven't looked it up myself, that no Patriot RB fumbled the ball in 18 games this year, which seems amazing to me). Additionally, 2 receivers said that it's much easier to catch an under-inflated ball in cold/wet weather because the same thing...you can squeeze it more to "keep" the catch rather than having a hard rock bounce off your hands.

    But I keep going back to, if you don't think there's a tangible benefit to an under-inflated ball, that's fine, but obviously the Patriots do.
     
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    All I know is that when I touch my balls I can tell...................well, never mind.
     
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    You'd think the NFL could have a gameball czar for playoffs? I can't wait to see all the public service commercials following fiasco.
     
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    That's the floor touching your balls Rick, you saggy old fart. ;)
     
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    yes, I can see an advantage to a deflated ball at 4.0 lbs +0 / -1.0

    Take a look at the Bengals, Chargers AFC game. -32 with Wind Chill Factor. A 10-0 game by 2 great air teams, ON ASTROTURF, who said 'it was like catching a brick', or 'it would make you think you broke your fingers'. And- 'when hitting the turf from being tackled, often was like a collision with a brick wall'.......NTM- In that game played 1-10-81, in Cleveland; I recall numerous line men, receivers, running backs, you name it going out on stretchers, cuz the field was harder than cement. In those type of conditions, sure a deflated ball would be a bonus. But for the last game, methinks spoiled sour milk, or Indy Fans....!
     
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    You lying little pecker-head, you promised you wouldn't tell.
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    Take the running backs and receivers out of it. Brady is the one who would want the balls a certain way. I understand the backs don't fumble much but they aren't a running team. They went off on the Colts twice with the running game this year but look at the Ravens game. They trailed by 14 twice and hardly ran.
     
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    The Giants and Packers played in 30 below during the NFC Championship. The ball was the last thing anyone complained about.
     
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    Outstanding point Messiah....!
     
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    ...something I just discovered, according to Chris Simms, each team's ball boy is stationed on the opposing team's sideline.
     
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    Now that seems a bit strange doesn't it?
     
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    That makes no sense.
     
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    Brady claiming he has no idea what happened. He approved the balls before they went to the referee and knows nothing after that.
     
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    The ideal gas law says that for an NFL sized football to drop 2 psi due to a temperature change, it would need to have dropped 40°F from when they were filled til game time..... Game time temp was 52°F.... I highly doubt the balls were inflated at 92°F...

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law
     
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