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  1. Denny Crane

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    What about the hundreds killed by "Christians" in the Central African Republic last year? What about the "Christian" terrorist attack in Norway that targetted children in 2011? What about the Lord's Resistance Army that has been killing people in Uganda since 2005?
     
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    LRA are animist/magician and say they follow the Ten Commandments (Jewish). And we're actively fighting them.

    You may know better than I, but Wikipedia says the CAR war is a civil/sectarian war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Republic_conflict_(2012–present) And the UN is trying to keep the peace.

    And the Norway attack was "anti-immigrant" by a guy who said he wasn't religious, and whose "Christian fundamentalism" was lumped in because he was a neo-nazi.
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    What about those abortion clinic bombings and murders of doctors?

    Those seem like modern acts of terrorism, as terrible as any of those others committed against those expressing their free rights (e.g. speech).
     
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    I think its pretty obvious that extremism is a product of poverty and low education. Its not some sort of magical good vs evil battle, if thats the case Im taking Zeus's side because that mother fucker has lightning bolts.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    Poverty and being oppressed by their own governments and other nations via military force and "legal" maneuvers.
     
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    YOUR WRONG! oh wait, no your not. Sorry Im just so use to arguing with you. You forgot oil money though, throw a whole shitload of money into that equation and everything is magnified.
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    The "oil money" is a complex issue.

    An oil company finds oil in some 3rd world poor country. They spend $billions improving the land and contributing otherwise to the country. A lot of the money goes to the poor government there. The oil companies want security, which is a fair thing to ask for. They're even paying for it. But this just arms the government and they abuse the people.

    That's the short story.
     
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    Oil money has done a lot of good in some places over there, but for the most part its just intensified the greed and corruption. When we move on to more advanced energies sources most of the middle east will revert to the stone age. They will have squandered the most important resource ever known to man. Got me thinking about our oil prices conversation, I think we were almost making the same point, I was blaming the Saudi's but their actions have been in response to our increased fracking supply, which I think was your point. They are scared so both are causing the price drop, but the Saudis are hoping to kill off fracking with price point. At any rate they are very threatened by our new supply glut with good reason. Im not sure if that will lessen or increase the recruitment of extremists though.
     
  10. Denny Crane

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    The problem with oil money is it makes $billionaires out of the royal family and THEY are the greedy ones. Whatever they're willing to spend on the people is how the people benefit.

    But who is the oil company supposed to deal with?

    When terrorists attack the oil company's facilities, who are they supposed to go to for police/defense?

    If the govt. is poor, the oil company has to invest in the govt. enough they can afford the police.

    Another thing that makes the oil money complex is the really big companies have more revenues than many countries' GDPs.
     
  11. MarAzul

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    The should be a clue hidden in that discovery. Perhaps Denny or Barfo can non selectively read the bible for any teachings of Jesus that you can compare to the
    atrocities put forth by Mohammad as justifiable treatment of the infidel. You can find about 160 to choose from in the Koran, find any one that you can compare in the teachings of Jesus.

    Don't come back with smart ass diflections, do some work, find one example of Jesus preaching exclusion of the non believer or anything like the treatment of the infidel in the Koran.
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    I see you selectively quoting the koran.

    Hypocrisy.
     
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    Oh, an attack on me, how quaint. But lazy and uninformed. You don't have to be Selective to pull up some despicable suggestion in that book, it's numerous and easy.
    But I see you failedl to find one teaching of Jesus to compare with any one of the many in the Koran.

    I should think you would be please to learn, I didn't take you for a man that is comfortable with uninformed.

    Let us try another since you may have the Obama like reticence to find any thing untoward in the teachings of Mohammad. Try the teachings of Krishna.
    Very similar to the teachings of Jesus except I think we had better turn that around since Krishna preceded Jesus by some three thousand years. Perhaps
    Jesus manage to venture over that way awhile before doing his final deeds. But nothing in the teaching of either like that of Mohammad.

    Don't leave it to my selective reading, give us your own studied opinion. A little Denny wisdom, small cuts on MarAzul mean little.
     
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    Just questioning the logic of selective quoting the books.

    If it suits your agenda, you do it often.
     
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    My "wisdom" is that those who don't selectively quote as a call to action are the smart and good ones.
     
  16. MarAzul

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    My thinking is, a man who won't read, won't learn, is a man with head up ass.
     
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    I read. Just not selectively and not with the intent of creating or participating in some cult.

    That's how I know about the tens of millions of people murdered and tortured by Christians. I read it.
     
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    It seems Denny must be quoting these events out of some book! I am pretty sure he did not witness the events. Probably
    hearsay though, I doubt he would put in the effort to actually read.
     
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    But you failed to read what it actually means to be a Christian! You allowed someone lead you into believing Christians were responsible.
    None of these acts were in response to the teachings of Jesus and if you would read those teachings, you would know this without hesitation.
    Then here you are, giving false witness about the evilness of Christians and you know not what it means to be one.
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    Not hearsay.

    Hard evidence.

    is that all you got? It's not anything at all...
     

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