A good 1st step

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  1. Hammerojustice

    Hammerojustice Chief Caveman, Keeper of Thor's Hammer

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    Good you can tell Hal and company want nothing to do with him whatsoever.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...ARod's house of cards continues to crumble.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...after being sued by ARod last year, why should the players union go out of their way to help ARod ?
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Unfortunately the MLBPA is obligated to help him, especially in regards to preventing damages related to the drug policy. As the agreement works to my understanding, you do your time/pay your fine, and then life begins a new as if nothing ever happened.

    But from the Yanks perspective, performance bonuses linked to marketability and related income. If one takes PEDs is that akin to contract fraud? I think they have a case because most people will see this as a reasonable interpretation. Good precedent too with Lance Armstrong paying back the prize money won for his 7 tour wins.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ... "help" is a relative term...just because they are required to represent him doesn't mean they'll go "balls to the wall" in doing so.

    ...hell, they players wanted him kicked out of they union last year...don't look for a concerted effort in the MLBPA working hard for ARod.


    ...and yes, I would consider that since ARod is "tainted goods" it would constitute him not being "marketable".
     
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    I think its great if they can do it. Continuing to reward this dick for milestones he wouldn't have reached without cheating is pathetic.
     
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    Agreed, there is a spectrum of "help".... He is on the slimmest margin side for sure. But the union will also be considering precedents, and we can't ignore those. They can't call into question an entire class of potential compensation contract terms. Not saying it can't be done with some narrow language, but the union is going to err on the side if the players.

    Now what right a team has to the marketability to an individual....that also gets into the finer points of his contract. Which by the way, I'd love to read that document.
     
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    ...I have to assume that like his suspension last year, the "marketability" question will ultimately be decided by an arbitrator...just guessing.

    ...and if that's the case, I like the Yanx' chances.
     
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    Arbitration sounds about right assuming he doesn't push this into the courts. As you say, the PED system is a work in progress. Not only do they need to refine what is a "crime", the also need to refine " punishment" including damages to teams that made investments in the players. In the real world, employees are liable for damages brought to their employers due to illegal acts, just that most times the people committing acts of stupidity can't pay. ARod is a different animal.
     
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    If I'm A-Rods lawyer I convince A-Rod to give the bonus to charity.
     
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    The Yankees have to get that guy in the rearview mirror because looking through the windshield in April and May here's what they will see. Toronto, Boston, Baltimore, and Kansas City: 3 home/3 away each team.
    Tampa: 3 Home/7 Away,
    Detroit: 4 Away,
    Mets: 3 Home,
    Washington: 2 Away,
    Texas: 3 Home,
    Oakland: 4 Away
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Nothing says he has to get the ABs to achieve those milestones anyway.

    But I'd still like to see him gone. Treat it like the Pavano money (well 50% bigger)...my guess is they wait partway through ST. If he sucks, try to get him to retire and settle up, leveraging insurance. Otherwise he is outright released. No way Steinbrenner should let this guy don pinstripes in YS ever again.
     
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    On the Yankee end they never should've signed Arod to that contract when he opted out and then basically went crawling back. On Arod's end things would be a lot better for him if he just took his suspension instead of putting on that three ring circus. On one end you have Arod and on the other you have proof of how friggin moronic the Yankee organization has become.
     
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    ...I don't think that eating ARod's $21 mil per year is out of the question...the Dodgers are already eating that much this year.
     
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    Mattingly23NY Turning Fastballs Into Souveneir's ~

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    Yep, I'd love to see A-Roid not even make it out of ST.

    PS: It's good to see the Bums eliminating dead weight, tho' they gotta' eat some contract money, like most of Kemps if not all. But then I wish the Yanx would do the same with A-Roid, if Tex does not come around by the mid or end of May, DFA him. Fok the money.

    Honestly I don't see how A-Roid can ever play any position, and I doubt he can hit .200 at his best, then DFA him, even if it means eating his bloated contract.

    Like Vick said, the Yanx screwed themselves on Alex, tho' they had no clue what was to come....!
     
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    I want him gone... No matter what
     
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    What he said ^^^^^^
     
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    Hammer, when you go to a Yanx game this year, do you think you can rent a NYPD outfit to cuff and put Alex in the trunk of your car. Create your own Warrant for him......to get him out of the park.....!!!????

    BTW-rent a car under a false ID, and leave Alex in the trunk too....!
     

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