Make the trade Neil

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Natebishop3, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    Show me where I discount SAS (MY OPINION). This is where you failed to understand the flow of the thread, so let me lay it out as simple as I can. It seems you are jumping to conclusions!
    [​IMG]

    I got crayons, construction paper and glue to help with your understanding! So let's give this a try shall we?!?

    [​IMG]

    So OneLifeToLive said this "The team as it is right now will not win it all. The team last year was not good enough to win it all. So what do you do if you're the GM if that is the case? You improve.", which I replied "Do you think GS can win it all?"

    Then OneLifeToLive replied "Why would they want too? They have best record in the league and are showing no signs of fatigue of letting up?" Obviously this is in reference to the previous season, or past performances has no relation to current success; using this regular season record and stats and ignoring last season's stats and record. And I responded "Because your points about the Blazers not being contenders would apply to GS. We have the second best record with so many injuries, so your second point also applies to the Blazers."

    Now this is where you chime in, obviously overlooking the entire concept of what I was talking about....

    Blue9 said "Setting up a false dichotomy. Just because GS hasn't/won't make a trade doesn't have any bearing on whether US making a trade would hurt/help our chances of winning it all. Let's throw these false comparisons (GS, SAS) out the window." Which again, you use the current season stats, record and so forth to give credit to the Warriors. Keep in mind that you've said previously and even in this post that we can't compare our team to the Spurs because of their previous championships and achievements. So then your circle begins!

    So here is where I give credit to the past Spurs and still not discount them as contenders... And I agree with you about the Spurs being favored, but disagree that you can't use the regular season and current success as a measuring tool as a team being far superior.

    So I said "Spurs yes, but GS no. Spurs have won it all and proven they can turn it on. GS hasn't won anything to be considered in the same convo as the Spurs. So far, the Blazers had gone further than the Warriors."

    Then you responded "My point is, you can't compare the Blazers to either team (or any team), not that GS and SAS are comparable. There just seem to be a lot of false comparisons between us and GS/SAS lately.
    And again - what happened in last year's POs has no bearing on what POR or GS are doing, and can do, this year. Just because we made it to the 2nd round doesn't mean we're going to match or improve on it this year. And just because GS lost in the first round doesn't mean they'll lose in the 1st again."

    Say what?!?!?!?! So you can't bring up the past, then use the past for the Spurs being a far superior team than the Blazers? Now this is where you go flip flopping with your arguments when it doesn't support your current opinion in the thread. You can follow from there and see how you are spinning like a dizzy top!

    So forgive me if I am getting a little dizzy trying to follow along your flip flopping opinions!

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2015
    PDXFonz and BrianFromWA like this.
  2. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I begrudgingly gave you a "like". You were full on "like" (with pictures, even!) until you pull that "broken link [​IMG]
    BS. Step yo' game up!
    [​IMG]
     
    dviss1 likes this.
  3. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    Which one? I checked all of them! Let me recheck
     
  4. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You Talkin to me bro?
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    Nope
     
  6. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    63,211
    Likes Received:
    22,404
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Get Green, Chandler, Lil Nate, SOMEBODY who can score at least 10 points off the bench. CJ is a complete joke.
     
  7. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    29,160
    Likes Received:
    9,840
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    One week away.

    Tick.

    Tock.
     
  8. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think teams will wait until next Thursday to deal with this extended all star break. It gives teams a real opportunity to get the new guys integrated before the second half of the season begins. I'd expect most trades to be completed by the weekend
     
  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    Denny--a new idea to get more clicks.

    This board has a shortage of posts which explain with cartoons.
     
  10. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    And crayons
     
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    Will you guys be disappointed if we don't make a move?
     
  12. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    10,729
    Likes Received:
    7,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Meh.
     
  13. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    21,056
    Likes Received:
    10,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Extremely.
     
  14. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    33,252
    Likes Received:
    13,380
    Trophy Points:
    113
    YEP!! At the same time I wont be surprised if we don't make a move.
     
  15. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,262
    Likes Received:
    2,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think we might be able to get by without one but that is a piss poor excuse not to take an opportunity to make our team better
     
  16. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    14,393
    Likes Received:
    5,919
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NW
    No. I'm fine if Neil thinks we are better off this season and next season if we dont make a move based on the options he has/players available.
     
  17. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    14,393
    Likes Received:
    5,919
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NW
    Is it really an opportunity if you have to give up to much?
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  18. Rhal

    Rhal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,997
    Likes Received:
    2,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    Portland
    Yes and no. Ill be dissapointed now then excited come draft day and we have a pick even if it is in the 20s.
     
    blue9 likes this.
  19. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,262
    Likes Received:
    2,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope, that is exactly my point. It has to be for a price that Neil feels is worth it. I just dont want to pass up a deal for the sake of chemistry or because we have been doing "good enough". If Neil doesnt make a move it could also speak to what his plans this summer are.
     
  20. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,661
    Likes Received:
    20,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Poster Boy
    Location:
    Blazerlandia
    I'll be disappointed that another team chose not to gift us a player who would be an obvious upgrade over what we'd be giving up and who would help us in the playoffs.

    I won't be disappointed if the Blazers Brass does not make a trade that would not have been a clear upgrade over what we'd be giving up.
     
    Kaydow likes this.

Share This Page