<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Dec 13 2006, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I heard that too, and I think if he goes there, Indiana will become a contender once again. Jermaine and Allen are two stars that have never won it all. Also I think they have enough confidence in each other to pass the ball to each other</div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-family:Arial">Im sorry, but that has to be the funniest quote I have ever read. Of course they have confidence to pass the ball to each other. There in the NBA. There not on a 6th grade team where the one kid is retarded.</span></span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Dec 13 2006, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"One of the deals King was strongly considering is with Golden State, for point guard Baron Davis, center Andris Biedrins and a third unidentified player. In addition to Iverson, the Warriors would get backup center Steven Hunter. While a source close to one of the players involved called the deal "done," the Sixers remain quiet about where they will be sending Iverson." NY Daily News Please don't let this happen.this would mess up the warriors for now and the future</div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-family:Arial">Uh...there kinda messed up already. The talent is there, the W's arn't. They don't have anyone with 'It'. Iverson has that and would do wonders for Golden State.</span></span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KWebb5 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-family:Arial">Uh...there kinda messed up already. The talent is there, the W's arn't. They don't have anyone with 'It'. Iverson has that and would do wonders for Golden State.</span></span></div>I disagree. Iverson is a little upgrade over Baron Davis at this point. Then you factor in that Golden State would have to give up a young player. That would not produce any more wins than they have right now.Also: Apparently Danny Ainge has backed out of the Iverson running, and his last offer was Delonte West, Theo Ratliff, Tony Allen, and a pick. That's CRAP. F*ck you Danny, you screwed this up. :ranting: IDIOT! He low-balled til the last minute, and he didn't even add Gomes? Ainge continued to try and get Allen Iverson without offering Green, Jefferson, OR GOMES? He's an idiot, IMO. F*ck you.
I found this on cavs.com and the guy said it was on the Philly forum."Word out of Philadelphia is that the 76ers are just one step away from trading their disgruntled All-Star to another team. The big surprise is where he's likely heading. The Cleveland Cavaliers, yes, the Cleveland Cavaliers have a tentative deal on the table that would bring the leagues 2nd leading scorer to Cleveland. Both teams are hush-hush right now, but sources from around the clubs say the names being discussed are Hughes, Gibson & Snow. You'll remember that Hughes and Snow both have a history in Philadelphia and Gibson's surprise play as of late has increased his stock. There may also be a draft pick or two on the table and that might be the only stipulation holding the deal back at this point."LinkI really don't think this is going to happen. I don't want to trade Hughes and Boobie! :thumbdn1:
I think he will be going to Golden State, That move brings in players of value. Baron Davis and Andris Biedrins...Iverson and Richardson would make a nasty duo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 13 2006, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. Iverson is a little upgrade over Baron Davis at this point. Then you factor in that Golden State would have to give up a young player. That would not produce any more wins than they have right now.Also: Apparently Danny Ainge has backed out of the Iverson running, and his last offer was Delonte West, Theo Ratliff, Tony Allen, and a pick. That's CRAP. F*ck you Danny, you screwed this up. :ranting: IDIOT! He low-balled til the last minute, and he didn't even add Gomes? Ainge continued to try and get Allen Iverson without offering Green, Jefferson, OR GOMES? He's an idiot, IMO. F*ck you.</div> :HAHAHA: I agreed you had the top canhces but yeah what a retarded dick head not offering players that can be the new face of a franchise<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Denver Nuggets, however, were still at least on the periphery of the talks. A source indicated last night that Denver was willing to part with center Nene as part of a package for Iverson and that George Karl had expressed no problems with coaching Iverson. Karl has dealt with high-wire acts many times in his career, having coached a young Gary Payton in Seattle and an old Anthony Mason in Milwaukee. The Nuggets would also be willing to deal injured forward Kenyon Martin, but the Sixers have no interest in the surgically susceptible forward. Martin is out for the year following a second microfracture knee surgery in November and still is due $59.75 million after this season. Philadelphia Inquirer</div>Off Hopshype^^
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Dec 13 2006, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that would be an awful trade for the cavs..</div>I agree, I hope it is not true. I don't want Hughes and boobie to leave.
What're you guys talking about? That's an awesome trade for the Cavs. Hughes has been nothing but a disappointment since he signed with them. Eric Snow is nothing more than an average PG at this stage of his career, and Gibson shows promise but is still just a young guy that may or may not pan out. With that trade the Cavs become the most dangerous team in the East. It also works out for Philadelphia because they get a good player in Hughes, a solid PG in Eric Snow, and a possible future star in Gibson. That's the best trade proposal I've heard yet. I'll be a little sad if Boston doesn't get AI, but the Celtics are built for the future. Blowing that team up for an outside shot at a finals appearance isn't the best course of action. After trading Billups and Johnson early in their careers I think it'd be better to hold onto a young guy for a change. I think Ainge could've done a much better job though if that was his offer. I'm sure the 76ers would've taken Ratliff, West, Telfair, and the two 1st rounders the Celts have this year. Why keep those picks? The team is already young enough and the Celts pick won't even be that good if they get AI. It's not like the Cavs are going into the lottery either. The Warriors talk is ridiculous. I realize Billy King is a moron but trading AI for Dunleavy, Foyle, Murphy, or Richardson is ludicrous. They're all constantly injured and none of them are that great in the first place. The Baron Davis proposal is interesting but he's not as good as AI. The 76ers need to rebuild, not trade their franchise guy for a player who plays the same way but isn't as talented. Seeing AI in Indiana would be hilarious. I can only imagine what kind of things him, Steven Jackson, Al Harrington, and Jermaine O'Neil could get into. If only they had Ron Artest still then that would be the most likely starting 5 ever to miss a game due to incarceration.
"What're you guys talking about? That's an awesome trade for the Cavs. Hughes has been nothing but a disappointment since he signed with them. Eric Snow is nothing more than an average PG at this stage of his career, and Gibson shows promise but is still just a young guy that may or may not pan out. With that trade the Cavs become the most dangerous team in the East. It also works out for Philadelphia because they get a good player in Hughes, a solid PG in Eric Snow, and a possible future star in Gibson. That's the best trade proposal I've heard yet. "I agree. the cavs would improve and the trade may just inspire iverson to play even better"I'll be a little sad if Boston doesn't get AI, but the Celtics are built for the future. Blowing that team up for an outside shot at a finals appearance isn't the best course of action. After trading Billups and Johnson early in their careers I think it'd be better to hold onto a young guy for a change. I think Ainge could've done a much better job though if that was his offer. I'm sure the 76ers would've taken Ratliff, West, Telfair, and the two 1st rounders the Celts have this year. Why keep those picks? The team is already young enough and the Celts pick won't even be that good if they get AI. It's not like the Cavs are going into the lottery either. "I agree. and the reality is that Pierce+Answer+sh*t on a shingle does not = finals (actually it might in the east). the team would never peak because of the age discrepancy if they got AI"The Warriors talk is ridiculous. I realize Billy King is a moron but trading AI for Dunleavy, Foyle, Murphy, or Richardson is ludicrous. They're all constantly injured and none of them are that great in the first place. The Baron Davis proposal is interesting but he's not as good as AI. The 76ers need to rebuild, not trade their franchise guy for a player who plays the same way but isn't as talented. "They aren't trading foyle, murph, dungboy, or Jrich, they're trading BD and AB. Since BD is basically a poor man's AI, but is five years younger, and AB is putting up ill numbers this year at 20 years old, this would be a bad trade for the warriors.
Well the Warriors trade makes more sense now. It does seem to be worth it from the 76ers standpoint, but I didn't think Golden State was trading Biedrins, which is why I don't think AI will be going to Oakland. Davis may be 5 years younger chronologically but physically he's just as beat up as Iverson. Those knee problems are serious.If the 76ers accepted the trade I stated earlier, then the Celtics might have enough to make a serious finals push, but if they give up Jefferson their front line is too weak (it's already bad now). If they give up Green then they're mortgaging their future because AI can't have more than 3 years at his current level left in the tank. By that time the young guys will be peaking but AI and Pierce will be on the downhill of their careers. It's just bad timing. I'm hoping he goes to the Cavs. That'd be great for everyone involved. Cleveland would have a great shot at a championship, and the 76ers improve.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>They aren't trading foyle, murph, dungboy, or Jrich, they're trading BD and AB. Since BD is basically a poor man's AI, but is five years younger, and AB is putting up ill numbers this year at 20 years old, this would be a bad trade for the warriors.</div>A bad trade overall. This doesn't make any sense for Philly, why take on another player similar to AI when they should be rebuilding. Taking on Davis, pretty much goes in the same direction. Biedrins would be a nice pickup, but means nothing when you take on Davis. The Cavs/Sixers trade is pretty good for the Cavs imo. Hughes is not worth his contract, Snow is a decent pg and Gibson is not the kind of young guy Sixers should be clamoring over. I mean he's a 2nd rounder, despite his ok play, they should be gunning for a potential talent worthy of rebuilding with. Cavs basically pick up an All-Star to pair with Bron by giving up three players that could be replaced like that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 13 2006, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>no memphis :ranting:</div>I don't think Jerry West can even make a trade until the new ownership deal goes through.
this just in " Chris Webber will be included in any deal the Sixers put forward, Billy King said "Webber is a god awful player with a god awful salsry, why not boot his arse out now why we have the chance"Looks like no-one will take a deal now. :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA:
OK, from listening to WEEI with Danny Ainge talking to them: we are basically out. Here's what was said:- Ainge says the chances of Iverson coming to Boston are "very slim."- Ainge has not talked to Billy King in 48 hours.- Ainge would be surprised if Philly traded AI to an Eastern Conference team.- Ainge says he did low ball, he's not willing to overpay (which basically means he's not trading Big Al or Gerald Green).OK, that basically tells me it's over. I still want to know where AI will go, but at least I can breath a little bit. I'm still mad Ainge didn't make a stronger push and maybe include Gomes, but oh well.In other news regarding the Iverson to Golden State rumors:Baron Davis told Philadelphia that if he is traded there, he would most likely ask for a trade out of Philly at the end of this season. As of right now, Philly is trying to get a 3rd team involved so Baron can go to a west coast team. Baron does not want to come over to an Eastern Conference team.
Seattle make you move for AI NOW! Imagine how many AI would average in our high paced offense - he could get 10 more shot attempts a game
Another update: Allen Iverson doesn't want to play in the state of California, which is dying down the Golden State scenerio (also considering Baron said he would ask for a trade out of Philly if he's traded there).Frontrunners as of right now: Denver, Minnesota, Indiana. With Golden State still hanging on by a hair.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clangus @ Dec 13 2006, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Seattle make you move for AI NOW! Imagine how many AI would average in our high paced offense - he could get 10 more shot attempts a game </div>No. Seattle does not have the pieces to get a deal done, and what they need is a big man, not a top scoring guard.
What a load of crap. Iverson this, Iverson that. If he wasn't such a superstar, I'd slap him in the face. He'd be in Charlotte right now if he wasn't so selfish. He'd be playing alongside Felton and Okafor, and if he was patient, after a while the Bobcats could start winning.
