The team that could probaly give philly the best deal are the celtics, but like CB32 been saying there basically out of it now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Dec 14 2006, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No way in hell this happens, The Sixers get RAPED. Allen Iverson for Joe Smith and Jamaal Magloire? Philly would riot.</div>Not exactly. I heard there is a possibility of adding two first round draft picks to that deal. That wouldn't be terrible, 2 expirings and 2 first rounders. Better chance at getting a top 3 pick!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Dec 14 2006, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It could work with A-I,shaq and wade because Wade and Shaq really don't care about stats they care about winning rings, and shaq would kind of have A-I in check. I mean almost every NBA player looks up to shaq like he's the grandfather of the NBA.</div>You can't forget about Walker/Williams/Posey/Payton, who want shots as well.I don't know who Miami would deal over to Philadelphia for AI. Dorrell Wright?What about the Golden State rumor with Baron Davis and Andris Biedrins?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MVPBaller @ Dec 14 2006, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Will Sacramento get AI?</div>They havn't been in the conversation lately. That deal was very close to happening, but it died.In my mind, I still believe that if nothing happens with any other team for a couple more days, Danny Ainge could very well "go in for the kill" if he wanted. His last offer was Theo Ratliff, Tony Allen, Philly's choice of either Delonte West or Sebastian Telfair, and a 1st round pick. If Ainge switches Ryan Gomes with Tony Allen, I think Philly might bite at that. I reall do.But who knows. I think tomorrow, when signed free agents from the summer can be traded, things will start to heat up for other teams (Minnesota can offer Mike James, Denver is trying to trade Nene, etc.). Only time will tell, but Boston does have the best chance at doing a straight up deal with just Philly. It's on Ainge to play his cards right though, we'll see. I still doubt it though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Dec 14 2006, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No way in hell this happens, The Sixers get RAPED. Allen Iverson for Joe Smith and Jamaal Magloire? Philly would riot.</div>Denver is trying to unload Nene and his horrendous contract on them, but Portland basically gave them a big "hell no." They are trying to unload Magloire themselves, plus they already have Randolph, Przybilla, a good young PF with a lot of potential in Aldridge, and Raef LaFrentz' TERRIBLE contract which doesn't expire until 2009.I wouldn't worry about this one, Tony. No way Portland takes on Nene's contract.
What would we do without CB32, he's like our source guys always knowing whats going on, maybe thats why he's BBW MVP
When the Heat team was first compiled with Antoine Walker, Gary Payton, D-Wade, and Shaq, everyone thought it wouldn't work because its a team full of players used to being the number one scoring options. Throwing AI in... it may work... may not 50/50 prolly
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Dec 14 2006, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What would we do without CB32, he's like our source guys always knowing whats going on, maybe thats why he's BBW MVP </div>The trade stuff is all over RealGM's boards, and there is a legit inside source on the 76ers board there... I'm guessing that's where CB32 is getting his information. Luckily he's not as lazy as I am when it comes to posting it.
They have to get this done sooner rather than later because with them not playing Iverson at all, his value might start dropping if they wait for a month without him even playing. If I'm philly I would trade him by the weekend.
I don't understand why people think AI will demand the ball wherever he goes. I mean if that was all Iverson cared about, I think he would be happy in Philly still. The reason AI is leaving is because he wants to win a ring before he retires and I think he will give up a lot for that. If AI were to go to Miami, I guarantee he would take a smaller role.
The reason why people are saying AI is selfish and is ballhog because look at the past Philly players many are underahievers and unreliable 2nd options. He had to take those 20 shots a game to keep mhis team in the game we just don't know if he wouold be a ballhog on MInny or w/e team because we have only seen him in a Philly jersey
I know we only have saw him in a Philly uniform, but when he played for team U.S.A. he was a very unselfish player, he was probaly the best player we had over there in 04 even though players just as wade,lebron,melo were over there, A-I was no doubtly the leader of team U.S.A
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L_C @ Dec 14 2006, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When the Heat team was first compiled with Antoine Walker, Gary Payton, D-Wade, and Shaq, everyone thought it wouldn't work because its a team full of players used to being the number one scoring options. Throwing AI in... it may work... may not 50/50 prolly</div>Well, it's much better than 50/50. I guess it depends on who they give up.
They would probaly have to give up some big contracts, I don't know how they could fit AI under the cap.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Dec 14 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand why people think AI will demand the ball wherever he goes. I mean if that was all Iverson cared about, I think he would be happy in Philly still. The reason AI is leaving is because he wants to win a ring before he retires and I think he will give up a lot for that. If AI were to go to Miami, I guarantee he would take a smaller role.</div>Like I said before. He is a Play Maker.I mean, he wont start a huge problem saying "I want the ball" or anything like that. But he will be thinking that he will be getting the ball since he is a big play maker.
It's actually not so much that he "demands" the ball, but that he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He's not a catch-and-shoot player. Because of that requirement, he forces potential teams to change their offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Living_Legend33 @ Dec 15 2006, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's actually not so much that he "demands" the ball, but that he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He's not a catch-and-shoot player. Because of that requirement, he forces potential teams to change their offense.</div>Bingo, which is why I believe that he wouldn't fit best in Denver. George Karl doesn't want any ball stoppers, he wants movement at all times. I'm not taking anything away from AI, but his game doesn't really suit Denver's offense. Karl already has publicly said that he doesn't want any change.However, I do think that if he goes there (which is a great possibility guys. If he's a Nugget at the end of today, don't be surprised), then they would find a way to make it work.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (coyn3burglar @ Dec 14 2006, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not exactly. I heard there is a possibility of adding two first round draft picks to that deal. That wouldn't be terrible, 2 expirings and 2 first rounders. Better chance at getting a top 3 pick!</div>Yes, but what happens if that doesn't happen? We'd be basically trading away Iverson for nothing, just for money purposes. No way in hell I'd pull the trigger on that either way. If we are going to rebuild, we need to start it NOW. And not by trading our guy away for a couple mediocre big men.
