Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Did I get you? This topic is about AI though, With all the discussion about Iverson lately I want to get your guys opinions on this. Where do you rank Iverson among the all time great guards? He has the 3rd highest ppg total in NBA history, He has the 2nd total ppg in NBA playoff history.Where would you rank him?
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Thats not even funny......talk about choking on cheetos.... I think if he can prove punks wrong about him being a ballhog and win a ring, he'll be known as a top 10 player alltime.SEE TONY, YOU GAVE EVERYBODY HEARTATTACKS
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! F*ck you, Tony. I love Iverson, and I rank him as the very best 6'0'' (or under) player ever to live. He's one of the best guards to ever play the game, that's for damn sure. I hate ranking players though, especially with all-time players, considering I really havn't seen most of them. As far as scoring, he's the best scoring 6 footer ever. Offensively, he's unbelievable. Defensively, nothing to brag about but his quickness and heart allow him to always be near the top of the steals list. I'm not about to rank him with my "top 10 all time guards" list or anything, but he is the best 6 footer ever, IMO. I'll leave it at that.
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! I wish. I few days old and im sick and tired of the AI rumors, this board is flooded. All the Celtic fans around here are going nuts...get laid or something
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! shut upwhen you're teams 5-13 and you havent sniffed the finals in over 2 decades and you have a chance to get a player like allen iverson of course you're going to be excited
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Boston is a good choice but the Sixers arent dumb enough to trade with in their own division. The celtics have alot of young talent that they could give up and they have alot of potential. If you trade Big Al, you still have gomes. If you trade Bassy, you still have Rondo as a backup and Delonte. Also, they could give up Theo because Philly is in need of a defensive player. Too bad he is injured all the time..
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Damn, I was about to get damned happy since I proposed that they trade him to Chi-town in another topic. I was like I got to get some damn rep points for callin that. lol :HAHAHA: :thumbdn1: Anyway, back on the topic, I pretty much agree with Celticballa and say he's number 1 on the list of under 6 list. Only one guy comes to mind that could give Iverson serious competition, Tiny Archibald. I would list then 1A and 1B actaully.
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Allen Iverson will always be known a ballhog. The guy averages 23 Shots Per Game over his career, and shoots a horrid percentage (42%). Iverson will make 2 or 3 impossible shots a game, miss 5 or 6 ill-advised shots, and generally take over 10 horrible shots in the least every game. Whether this is justified or not, people will always remember him as a ballhog.That being said, Iverson is perhaps the greatest ballhandler in NBA history. I'm not just talking about crossovers, I'm talking about everything. How do you think AI gets so many mid-range jumpers off? The man can dribble from (A) to ( as quickly and as efficiently as anyone in the history of the game. Iverson also averages 9 Free Throw Attempts Per Game, in no small part to his ability to get into the paint.Iverson defensively is suspect. One on one he is garbage, and I think everyone knows that. It's not Iverson's lack of lateral quicks, its his lack of size and strength. Off the ball, for every 3 steals he gets, Iverson is going to gamble and leave a man wide open. I remember reading an article from a Raptors Magazine out in Canada, and back in the 2001 Playoffs, Dell Curry was able to average double didgits (around there) off the bench. Most of his points, something in the 60 - 70 % range, came off Allen Iverson gambles.Even though Iverson takes many horrid shots, and even though Iverson makes equally as many horrid decisions (3.7 TOPG over career), no one can argue that Allen Iverson can score - and he can score in bunches. As Ballaholic stated, Iverson is 3rd in All Time PPG, and 2nd in All Time Playoff PPG. Despite size and range limitations, Allen Iverson has still been able to get off any shot at any time. And the clutch... Oh the clutch. As of the end of last season, Allen Iverson had made 8/20 shots with 24 seconds left, team tied/down 1/down 2 within the past four years. How did Tracy McGrady do? 35% to Iverson's 40%. How did Kobe Bryant do? 22% to Iverson's 40%. Now, Iverson didn't have the most late game attempts, but it's without the doubt the man is a monster late.So basically, Iverson is perhaps the greatest slasher in the history of the game. Iverson is one of the greatest clutch players in the history game. Allen is one of the greatest scorers in NBA history. Allen Iverson has one of the greatest mid-range shots in NBA history.However, Iverson makes dumb decisions (shooting, when to drive, when to pass), gambles way too much on defense, is a liability as a one-on-one defender, and is very streaky from 3.In conclusion, Iverson's horrible teams have hindered his reputation. He's had to do too much, and it refelects on his play. Regardless, no one can deny Iverson is one of the greatest scorers and clutch performers ever, and can be a deadly passer when his teammates are going. As with so many others, Allen Iverson will not have a clear reputation as a Superstar because quite simply... His teams have blown, and blown it bigtime. Either way, I view Allen Iverson as perhaps a Top 10 Guard of All Time - the only way to go from there being up.
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Dec 9 2006, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Allen Iverson will always be known a ballhog. The guy averages 23 Shots Per Game over his career, and shoots a horrid percentage (42%). Iverson will make 2 or 3 impossible shots a game, miss 5 or 6 ill-advised shots, and generally take over 10 horrible shots in the least every game. Whether this is justified or not, people will always remember him as a ballhog.That being said, Iverson is perhaps the greatest ballhandler in NBA history. I'm not just talking about crossovers, I'm talking about everything. How do you think AI gets so many mid-range jumpers off? The man can dribble from (A) to ( as quickly and as efficiently as anyone in the history of the game. Iverson also averages 9 Free Throw Attempts Per Game, in no small part to his ability to get into the paint.Iverson defensively is suspect. One on one he is garbage, and I think everyone knows that. It's not Iverson's lack of lateral quicks, its his lack of size and strength. Off the ball, for every 3 steals he gets, Iverson is going to gamble and leave a man wide open. I remember reading an article from a Raptors Magazine out in Canada, and back in the 2001 Playoffs, Dell Curry was able to average double didgits (around there) off the bench. Most of his points, something in the 60 - 70 % range, came off Allen Iverson gambles.Even though Iverson takes many horrid shots, and even though Iverson makes equally as many horrid decisions (3.7 TOPG over career), no one can argue that Allen Iverson can score - and he can score in bunches. As Ballaholic stated, Iverson is 3rd in All Time PPG, and 2nd in All Time Playoff PPG. Despite size and range limitations, Allen Iverson has still been able to get off any shot at any time. And the clutch... Oh the clutch. As of the end of last season, Allen Iverson had made 8/20 shots with 24 seconds left, team tied/down 1/down 2 within the past four years. How did Tracy McGrady do? 35% to Iverson's 40%. How did Kobe Bryant do? 22% to Iverson's 40%. Now, Iverson didn't have the most late game attempts, but it's without the doubt the man is a monster late.So basically, Iverson is perhaps the greatest slasher in the history of the game. Iverson is one of the greatest clutch players in the history game. Allen is one of the greatest scorers in NBA history. Allen Iverson has one of the greatest mid-range shots in NBA history.However, Iverson makes dumb decisions (shooting, when to drive, when to pass), gambles way too much on defense, is a liability as a one-on-one defender, and is very streaky from 3.In conclusion, Iverson's horrible teams have hindered his reputation. He's had to do too much, and it refelects on his play. Regardless, no one can deny Iverson is one of the greatest scorers and clutch performers ever, and can be a deadly passer when his teammates are going. As with so many others, Allen Iverson will not have a clear reputation as a Superstar because quite simply... His teams have blown, and blown it bigtime. Either way, I view Allen Iverson as perhaps a Top 10 Guard of All Time - the only way to go from there being up.</div> Bingo, this is why I love you. Couldn't have said it any better. Also like to mention, the fans love Iverson but the media doesn't.
Re: Allen Iverson traded to Chicago!!! Dang KMart, first me then BCB. That's just great...I agree is he top ten of all time. But if he wants to move up the scale, he needs to win a title.
