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    ...at the time, the way blacks were treated in this country, Ali had absolutely no reason to fight in Viet Nam....I don't blame him one bit.

    ...and yes, because of Ali as well as others, people began to not only question that stupid war, but the government as well.
     
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    Hell I agree that it was a war we never should have been in but VETERANS saw Ali's actions as turning his back on the country. Though if I'm being honest I did like Ali's explanation when he said, "I'll beat them up, but I won't kill them".
     
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    Ah, how could I leave out Roberto Duran. I'd have to look this stat up, but it seems to me, Duran, had more title fights, before he ever lost one fight, seems approximately perhaps 75 fights, before ever losing a belt, and won several belts in various categories,
     
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    Me 2...!
     
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    ...rick, I would never badmouth our vets...they do what they are told to do. I lost friends, classmates, and relatives in Nam but I have never been able to make my head and my heart accept the fact that Nam never made any sense to me then and doesn't make any sense to me now...no way anyone can justify it for me, anymore than someone can justify why our children are still dying overseas as we speak.
    ...and the vets' opinion of Ali and Viet Nam in many cases has changed over the years.
    ...I never knew anyone who came back from Nam that wasn't scarred in some way (emotionally and/or physically)...and it's the same today. There are nearly as many military personnel dying from suicide as from combat...something is horribly wrong with this picture.
     
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    ...I became a fan of his early in his career and although I believe he was world champ in 3 different weight classes, I think he was best as a lightweight.
     
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    Amen 59, I couldn't of said this any better, perfecto, hole in one.....!
     
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    The thing I remember about Duran, was #1 no one stood a chance against Duran in His Prime.
    #2- Oft referred to properly as having Fists Of Stone.....one if not THE greatest Fighter of His time, and all time.....

    His no mas, with Sugar Ray Leonard, was long past his prime.....Duran would of made Sugar Ray seen double if not triple, by knocking him out early, in Duran's Prime, NO one stood a chance against Roberto....!
     
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    ...I remember his first fight vs Leonard. Leading up to the fight, he got inside Sugar Ray's head by saying something to the effect of "I'm going to take your title then I'm gonna take your wife"...and during the fight Duran was able to repeatedly slip most of Leonard's punches...totally frustrating him...of course, Leonard got his revenge in the second fight.
     
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    +> Survivor of the Vietnam war draft and turns himself to Islam. We could say in sports thats a bold move
    Thats right...!!!
     
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    ...wow, just wow.
     
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