Who would you take if you had to choose one of these players to be on your team for 5 or so years..?Dwight Howard's offense is a little bit of a mystery. I don't know if he will ever add that polished post game or not. Right now he is just using more raw strength to score points than anything. Yao Ming has already got a very good offensive post game. It's obvious that Dwight Howard is better at the defensive categories (defense itself, blocking shots, rebounding) but I don't know if he will ever be on the same level offensively as Yao..I would take Dwight Howard though.
Howard is a beast, and hes still extremely young (Yao is young too, but Howard is a few years younger I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). Yao is a great player, as is Howard, but Howard is an absolute beast on the boards, and much more athletic than Yao is, which is probably my deciding factor when choosing between the two.
I'd take Dwight Howard. He's much more superior on defense, while Yao is just a foul hazard. Adding in that Dwight Howard is still much younger and his offensive game is very undeveloped.
Foe me this is a no brainner. Dwight Howard is clearly the more talented player out of the both. Yes his offense needs soem work on, but despite this, he still puts up good offensive numbers. Also defensively there is no question that Howard is the better player. He is a rebounding and blocking machine, and he is not affraid to get physical
Depends in what your team will need a inside scorer or a someone who can rebound and defend in the paint.I would take Howard. Howard is 17/13 threat and can shot block pretty well. Yao is soft and better at scoring than Howard.
Right now I'll take Yao Ming. In a few seasons? Probably Dwight Howard. But right now Yao Ming is the biggest inside offensive force in basketball and he creates huge mismatches. Because of his lateral quickness he will never be a dominating rebounder or shotblocker but because of his size he is a problem when on the defensive end. Right now I see Dwight Howard as a dominating rebounder a pretty good defender, I don't think he's as good a defender as people think right at this moment...and he is not an elite/dominating shotblocker that for some reason people think he is...His offensive game needs work and he's living off a couple moves and his size/athletic ability...if he gets some moves in the post...look out...wow.
I think this comparison should be alot closer. Yao is going to be a dominate force on the offensive end for the next 8-10 years of his career. His size does that much for him...Nobody can guard him man to man without double teaming; Including Dwight Howard. While Dwight has potential to be absolutley phenominal, Yao is a very valuable player. Dwight is the better rebounder and defender, but at this stage in their careers, Yao's offensive game is so much more developed than Dwights. He is a better free throw shooter, his mid range is better, and he can still score around the bucket with diversified post moves. Saying all that, I think that I would still take Dwight. You just cant pass up a player like him. His athleticism is ridiculous, and he is only 20 years old leading the league in rebounds. His offense will get better and so will his defense. Also, his team has one of the best if not the best record in the east, and they really dont have THAT much talent.
Yao Ming is so underrated on Defense. He plays great defense without blocking too many shots...I think he leads the league in shots altered, but more than that he stones people individually and in help...hold opposing centers to an efg% of .439, and everyone in Houston will tell you that the team D all flows from Yao intimidating teams in the middle. Opposing center efg%: Yao, .439. Wallace, .456.
More advanced stats:Opposing center's PERYao 9.9Howard 15.5Net PERYao +18.2Howard +11.8I think it's obvious to see who has the advantage.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Dec 11 2006, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>More advanced stats:Opposing center's PERYao 9.9Howard 15.5Net PERYao +18.2Howard +11.8I think it's obvious to see who has the advantage.</div>Good Work :happy0144:
I'd take Howard. Yao Ming is soft, slow, he doesn't always rebound well (despite being 7'5"!) and still has a pretty weak upper body which won't do him any good in the NBA.Howard is more talented too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Dec 13 2006, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd take Howard. Yao Ming is soft, slow, he doesn't always rebound well (despite being 7'5"!) and still has a pretty weak upper body which won't do him any good in the NBA.Howard is more talented too.</div> Who cares if he's 7'5" or 6'5"...with rebounding height doesn't matter. Giant people like Yao are never great rebounders because of their slow lateral quickness.
What do you mean? he's always under the basket. If I got a player that's 7'5" standing under the basket, his ass better be pulling down boards. Especially these days when there are no more centers left.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Dec 13 2006, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What do you mean? he's always under the basket. If I got a player that's 7'5" standing under the basket, his ass better be pulling down boards. Especially these days when there are no more centers left.</div> Do you not understand what I posted above? Because of his size and agility he's at a disadvantage when rebounding...It's a simple fact with 'giant' NBA players...and especially Yao Ming...He's always going to get 9-10 rebounds...people that expected him to dominate the boards and get 15 a game are idiots.
Rodman, Barkley, Russell, and Wallace were not tall and are all great rebounders. All below 6'11 easily
Give me Yao Ming now and give me Yao Ming for the future also. He's such a smooth scorer. He has a soft touch around the basket, He has good court vision, His defense is underrated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 13 2006, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you not understand what I posted above? Because of his size and agility he's at a disadvantage when rebounding...It's a simple fact with 'giant' NBA players...and especially Yao Ming...He's always going to get 9-10 rebounds...people that expected him to dominate the boards and get 15 a game are idiots.</div>No, we just remeber the days when tall players used to dominate the boards instead of making up pussy excuses like "poor lateral movement". This is a guard oriented and guard dominated game today, Yao can easily get 12-15 per game, quickness or not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Dec 15 2006, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, we just remeber the days when tall players used to dominate the boards instead of making up pussy excuses like "poor lateral movement". This is a guard oriented and guard dominated game today, Yao can easily get 12-15 per game, quickness or not.</div> No he can't. 'Remember the days when players used to dominate the board instead of making pussy excuses?' How many players in NBA history have been over 7'4"? Not that many. Yao Ming and people like him are a rare case. He has slow lateral movement and when you watch him on defense it's obvious to anyone with eyes. I don't know what you don't understand about this. Yao never makes excuses about it...it's just scouts and fans that bring it up.
