I can sense something happening, not the usual ST optimism

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  1. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Ten games in this spring......Pirela, Cave and
    Bird have impressed at the plate. Pirela needs
    to improve his defense.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Mrmel,

    Yankee GM and owners just do not care how
    fans feel about their product. It is always
    'stay the course' and then trade the kids for
    name players. Their 'plan' is old hat.....and so
    wrong to build future championship teams.
     
  3. blgridesagain

    blgridesagain team player

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    I don't think you'll be seeing the Yankees trading "all" of their young prospects.....its not going to happen because contrary to what most of the board feels, Cashman/Yanks do have a plan and it IS to get younger and more "athletic" and they've been saying it for the past couple of years.....Gregorius is an example, he may or not pan out but they have made the "gamble"...
    ......don't know how many of our posters have heard or remembered Hal and company recently laid down the law and addressed the farm system directors/instructors regarding the quality and readiness of their young prospects.

    But keep in mind, just like any other team, the Yankees could and may use one or two prospects as trade chips to help acquire a good young established player NOT past his prime who can step right in and help the team.
    The trick is to try and hold onto your better prospects in any possible trade.
     
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    Time will tell. Right now its all just wait & see.

    Right now with Girardi's premature & foolish announcement that Drew will be the opening day 2nd baseman after only 10-11 games into spring training. I'll be real curious to see if one of the kids (Pirela / Rhysnyder. isn't kept up if Drew finishes up ST going 5-50. Currently 1-13.
     
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    Pirela, according to Girardi can be used both around the infield AND outfield because he has played those positions but in any case, so far, this guy has done nothing but prove he can HIT- and if it continues they WILL find a spot for him.
    And don't forget Judge and Severino (P) who by just about all accounts amoung baseball "people" are legitimate good prospects with high ceilings.
     
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    Mattingly23NY Turning Fastballs Into Souveneir's ~

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    It's not safe to assume the ordinary laws of Baseball, will ever be utilized by the Stein Kids, and Trash-Man.....!

    quite on the contrary....!
     
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    Stop the same old tired crap will ya?
    Give me examples where the Stein Kids are worse than most of the other ownerships in their league......unless you had a problem with them signing Beltran (or Grandy), Ellsbury and McCann.
    I don't think the "farm system" ruse is going to work anymore because the Yankees DO have a good crop of farmhands (and its no secret amoung baseball people) who are not very far away from wearing pinstripes and you'll probably see one or two THIS year....maybe three if the LH reliever Lindgren stays on schedule.
    And Severino (SP) if the injury bug bites a couple of SP....yikes.
     
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    Don't forget Refsnyder......and Pirela - so far- from what we've seen from his hitting last September and current ST will be playing SOMEWHERE for the Yanks and will be in the lineup until he stops hitting.
    And Jacob Lindgren (LH) reliever, Rothschild, minor league instructors and various other scouting reports say he should/could be ready right now.

    Tonight vs Boston, Lindgren, 1 IP, 3Ks, 0 Runs
     
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    What flavor kool-aid are you drinking?
     
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    derp......and snivel....same old drivel, post after post.....:blahblah::blahblah:

    Do your own Homer homework......You started out on these boards, smearing everyone else, while always insisting on having others do your homework for you, ON EVERY Single Meaningless thread you add to any post.....:evilfire:

    I swear this is the perfect emoticon to reveal your immature personality: :smiley-woohoo::smiley-woohoo::smiley-ko::smiley-ko:

    Is that Kool Aid or Toilet Water, I guess the latter....
    :koolaid::drinkapint:

    Some men are frozen in their teens, and I doubt you will ever comprehend this enough to look in a mirror...! Or would it crack???:growup:

    :bored::owned::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:
     
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    ...love the typical partial assessments of Pirela, Refsnyder, and Lindgren...both Pirela and Refsnyder's defense is a concern...and Lindgren had anything but a clean 9th inning.
     
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    The self anointed Team Analyst, is sitting in his bedroom pretending to be Mel Allen or Red Barber. Snorkle, Fedora, Flippers, and a tape recorder. I think someone got lost, pretending to be his own Radio Show. Anthony Rizzo's Son......?
     
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    Talking about wearing blinders. Same shit every day.
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Hey I'm a glass half full kind of guy. But anyone can see that Cashman and the Steins handed us a glass that leaks.
     
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    1- NTM, Hal is the only Owner, in the History of MLB to "lay down the law"; yet you seem to think ONLY Hal has ever done as much; cause you can't remember any other Owner in MLB who has done as much if not more.....Doh-:hcp:

    first time I heard throwing a temper tantrum to the Press over the press pushing Hank over those Bosox. As if, Hank were the 1st, last and only owner to do as much. Actually his efforts fell short of numerous Owners, even GM's over the years. Guess you've never seen a Dick Williams led team in action. Dick not only bombasted his rivals, he ensured a brawl on the field became common place, regardless of where Dick was the Mgr. albeit, Oakland, San Diego, Boston, and every Team he ever coached. Hell with Williams as Mgr. not even Ray Kroc needed to say a word to the press. Diego and the Bums played typical laid back So. Cal. baseball, with manners, until Williams changed the spectrum of those 2 Teams ill fated Hate Relationships...

    Leo the Lip Durocher, same way, no need really for a GM, or even Owner, both Leo and Dick brought a different style of being Skipper of any Team, to levels, the GM & Owners need only sit back and watch.

    2- So sayeth, the self appointed/anointed Anal-yst....again a 1st in Yankee History, maybe even MLB. Shit I don't know let me ask the Genie Tarot Card Reader. I think this one has gone blind looking too much into the reflection of his crystal ball......:swami::crystalball:
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    It seems to me that cashman has 3 plans running simultaneously: (A) get younger, develop farm, add youth by trade...take some chances, (B) cover his ass and hedge plan A with some old retreads, and (C) spend as little as possible until ARoid, CC, Tex and Beltran are off the books.

    The problem is that this wasn't a concerted design...He led with C, tried to execute A ( but did poorly because you had to trade youth for youth), and the pulled the worst plan B in recent history. Face it, he made this shit up on the way.

    Good GMs play chess, Brian is playing checkers and he's not good at that either.
     
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    Hell yes, I do have a problem signing a washed up ex-CF, who can't play His given Position, has lost .063 points off of his B'Avg., has landed on the DL time and time again. He's washed up, in case you didn't notice.

    Is hiring a 37 yr old OF'r (who was anything but special), not worthy of HOF consideration, and you think he's the 2nd coming of Micky Mantle, the way you talk Homerbonics, and trash talk others, who seem to know a helluva lot more about the Yanx and MLB than you do, but you can't face the music, "you can't handle the truth".

    Yes, in fact I also have a problem with signing Grandy, but then you won't give K. Long a rest, or credit for working with Grandy to pull those inside pitches for HR's. I'd never of traded Austin Jackson for Grandy to begin with.

    I wager Beltran doesn't play in more than 110 games, or last til the A.S. break before he's back on the DL....! So, no I'm not going to give those brain dead Stein Kids an ounce of credit. Does this look like a Post Season Team to you, it sure as hell doesn't to me, tho' I'd love to be wrong....!



    IMO The Steins gave the Team's Spirit away, the day their dad died.....pitiful....!

    "Playoffs, I just hope we can win a game"....JM SR.
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    (Matt post)
    Hell yes, I do have a problem signing a washed up ex-CF, who can'tplay His given Position, has lost .063 points off of his B'Avg., has landedon the DL time and time again. He's washed up, in case you didn'tnotice.

    Is hiring a 37 yr old OF'r (who was anything but special), not worthy of HOF consideration, and you think he's the 2nd coming of Micky Mantle, the way you talk Homerbonics, and trash talk others, whoseem to know a helluva lot more about the Yanx and MLB than you do, but you can't face the music, "you can't handle the truth".

    Yes, in fact I also have a problem with signing Grandy, but then you won't give K. Long a rest, or credit for working with Grandy to pullthose inside pitches for HR's. I'd never of traded Austin Jackson for Grandy to begin with.

    I wager Beltran doesn't play in more than 110
    games, or last til the A.S.break before he's back on the DL....! So, no I'm not going to give thosebrain dead Stein Kids an ounce of credit. Does this look like a PostSeason Team to you, it sure as hell doesn't to me, tho' I'd love to bewrong....!


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    Oh, okay....you laid out a couple of real indictments on the " Stein boys".
    You have a problem with them trading Austin Jackson.....Austin Jackson who has become a career .274 hitter, averages 9 HRs and 50 RBI per season, career .738 OPS and averages 152 STRIKE-OUTS per year. lmao. You really know your stuff. lol

    Let's move on to Beltran. The Yanks signed him after he had just had a season where had 554 ABs, .296 BA, .339 OBP, 491 SLG%, .830 OPS. Not bad huh?

    Yes, he's 38 years old and you must really be ignorant if you thought the Yankees were expecting him ro play CF because they had already signed Ellsbury....and you must be really nuts if you thought the Yanks were NOT going to use him for a lot of DH duty to help keep him/legs fresh throughout the year. He was signed for 3 years with two more to go....he came up with elbow chips last year but you obviously must think a 38-39 yr old good proven switch hitter cannot continue to be useful and give good contributions in part time RF/DH duty- I can't can't change that.

    I also noticed you conveniently failed to mention the pretty good crop of farmhand prospects who have NOT YET been traded away.

    Now take off the clown suit, my side is hurting from laughing too hard.

    By the way, I DO NOT claim to know more than everyone else. You don't know me, lol
    I just happen to have a different opinion on a couple of Yankee hot button issues than the usual handful of others on the board.
    I know darn well I could be wrong and the "majority" (all 6-7 of them lol) could be right.
    So be it....that's how it goes.

    Now YOU have brought up Long in your post -
    Granderson once hit 30 HRs when he played in Detroit when it was like hitting in an airport. As for Long, I have pointed to the Yankees' poor team offensive output the last two seasons. I'm only mentioning it because YOU brought his name up in your above post. I put it to rest. It's done, over.

    And you, you have posted plenty of your cute little insults and innuendos.

    You're a funny guy..... lmao
    Specializing in long winded trivial ramblings.

    I hope you read my WHOLE response.
     
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